Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DisneyDoctor]

I like this visualization...

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The guy at the arrow thinks the train ride has been great.. nice and smooth.. what's all the fuss about?

My pants are brown if I'm that guy..

 

[flynnibus]

My pants are brown if I'm that guy..

Not if you only listen to the conductor that says "we have it under control" and "train wrecks are just a hoax" while refusing to question anything that doesn't come from the train company

 

[DisneyDoctor]

I think it's kind of what Sweden is doing. At the moment their death rate is higher than the US, but lower than a number of European countries (e.g., UK, Spain, Belgium).

Interesting. I should really familiarize myself with the efforts other countries are making..

 

[DisneyDoctor]

Not if you only listen to the conductor that says "we have it under control" and "train wrecks are just a hoax"

Lol fair point.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I suppose the number of high risk individuals is pretty high. Especially if we include those with comorbidities like obesity, hypertension, and diabetes. Thanks for the perspective.

And we can't forget, people who are not high risk are also ending up dead from this. We've had very young people get severely ill and almost die, or have died. In Vancouver over the weekend we had a 40 year old die at home in self-isolation.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

And we can't forget, people who are not high risk are also ending up dead from this. We've had very young people get severely ill and almost die, or have died. In Vancouver over the weekend we had a 40 year old die at home in self-isolation.

Another really important point. I guess we just don't know enough about what really makes someone "high risk." Could be something more related to cellular structure and membrane proteins etc. Or, maybe some people have better immunity from previous infections with different pathogens. All potential answers, but in the end just guesses.

 

[dolbyman]

In Vancouver over the weekend we had a 40 year old die at home in self-isolation.

Waves at fellow Vancouver resident

We rebooked to end of September (from May) now WDW/D Cruise/WDW, hope everything settles down till then

 

[Andrew C]

And we can't forget, people who are not high risk are also ending up dead from this. We've had very young people get severely ill and almost die, or have died. In Vancouver over the weekend we had a 40 year old die at home in self-isolation.

Even so, the vast majority who die are elderly and/or already have an illness. A few deaths of younger and healthy people (comparatively) although very tragic, doesn’t change that.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Even so, the vast majority who die are elderly and/or already have an illness. A few deaths of younger and healthy people (comparatively) although very tragic, doesn’t change that.

But if all the vulnerable flood the system, you usually end up with higher deaths among the young and healthy due to lack to immediate care. Which is the case in Italy.

 

[Andrew C]

But if all the vulnerable flood the system, you usually end up with higher deaths among the young and healthy due to lack to immediate care. Which is the case in Italy.

I know in the US, hospitalizations have not reached the levels they projected at this time. Like deaths, this number has been downgraded in the models. Still lots of work to do of course.

 

[xdan0920]

But if all the vulnerable flood the system, you usually end up with higher deaths among the young and healthy due to lack to immediate care. Which is the case in Italy.

Or in local areas in the US. Like NYC and Bergen County NJ.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

But if all the vulnerable flood the system, you usually end up with higher deaths among the young and healthy due to lack to immediate care. Which is the case in Italy.

This isn't entirely related, but I've been itching to share this article.

Doctors In Training Are Dying, And We Are Letting Them Down

Doctors in training are facing great risks in the battle against COVID-19. Given the structure of U.S. training programs they are put in an especially vulnerable position.

www.forbes.com

 

[Tom P.]

I know in the US, hospitalizations have not reached the levels they projected at this time. Like deaths, this number has been downgraded in the models. Still lots of work to do of course.

Reports that I have read indicate that Americans have actually been doing a better job of implementing social distancing measures than predicted, which is wonderful. One report said that the modelers originally projected only about a 50% compliance rate, but we've been seeing closer to a 90% compliance rate. That has pushed the numbers down. Let's hope that continues. The worst thing that could happen right now is for folks to see these numbers and get a false sense of security, causing them to relax their efforts.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I think this is a great video worth sharing. American Kids meeting an Italian Teen Under Quarantine.

 

[DCBaker]

“Independent Employee Service Association and Disney have reached an agreement for hourly security cast members that will maintain members’ health insurance benefits coverage, educational support and additional employee assistance programs during a temporary furlough effective April 19,” Disney officials said in a statement. “This agreement provides an easier return to work when our community recovers from the impact of COVID-19. We are grateful to have worked together in good faith to help our cast and members navigate these unprecedented times.”

Union members will maintain healthcare coverage and education benefits during the furlough. Essential Disneyland security employees will continue to work during the furlough.

Disneyland reaches furlough agreement with union employees

The agreement on a furlough beginning April 19 was reached with the Independent Employee Service Association that represents Disneyland security employees.

www.ocregister.com

 

[willtravel]

They are not going to swab.
Temperature checks, combined with perhaps a mask requirement. Hand sanitizer stations and virtual que's along with changes in how meet and greets are being done. Then it's a matter of how much staff is REALLY needed the first few months as not much travel is going on. 2 out of 4 parks open, no water parks and one fireworks show per week.

I don't understand how this is going to work when you eat or drink. Take off. How would this help? Just wondering.

 

[ElvisMickey]

I don't think anyone knows really... what happens if we return to "normal" and it starts up again. We don't have a vaccine yet so I'm trying to figure out how this works from here on

I was literally having a conversation with a coworker about this earlier. How many people did it take to start this whole thing to begin with? Single digits. So China (and/or we) relax restrictions when the curve is flattened...are people not expecting the numbers just to rise all over again? It’s not going away.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I think this is a great video worth sharing. American Kids meeting an Italian Teen Under Quarantine.

Thank you for sharing - I've shared it in several places on FB.

 

[Tom P.]

So have all of the unions now "reached an agreement" that Disney will not be paying them and there is no guarantee they will be all hired back when they reopen? These union by union announcements that act like they "negotiated" something are just sad.

First off, the Disney employees are not being fired. They are still employees. They are retaining their benefits. They are being furloughed.

Second, why would Disney contractually agree to keep every current employee on board when they re-open under current circumstances? They have no idea when the parks will ultimately open nor under what circumstances. If the parks re-open at 50% capacity, it is ludicrous to think that they will keep the same staffing levels they had before.

 

[DisneyCane]

For anybody keeping an eye on the numbers over at worldometers.info, there appears to be a major typo in the case numbers today. I don't think that Nevada can possibly have 22,547 new cases today (more than total cases to date in Michigan and 47 other States).