Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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LittleBuford

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And will anyone want to go back to a store model now that we see how contactless delivery can work so well?

I certainly will. Far from finding this new reality more convenient, I miss the “old ways” more than ever and can’t wait for their return. It seems premature and unrealistic to me to predict that the crisis will fundamentally change people’s shopping, dining, and entertainment habits in the long run.
 

Disney Analyst

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When the shut-downs first started happening, I had a clip from Demolition Man flash through my head...

"Taco Bell was the only restaurant to survive the Franchise Wars. Now all restaurants are Taco Bell"

😔

Literally. Up here we have a few competing chains of corporate causal fine dining restaurants, and I swear all we will have left are Cactus Clubs and McDonalds.
 

GoofGoof

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I can’t speak for anyone else, but contactless delivery is nice for some things, but there is also something to be said for the experiece of being out in a restaurant. I don’t exlect that to disappear.
Oh I don’t either, but I think we may have a period of time where a lot of our favourite local restaurants no longer exist... so many have already announced permanent closing up here.
Sit down Restaurants will continue. Some may go out of business but new places will open eventually. I think it’s very possible that when people start going back to work restaurants and bars are delayed in opening. They may still be takeout only for a short period after other businesses open. Eventually everything will be back. In other words it may not just be an announcement that everything opens at once. It might for example start with offices, manufacturing and non-essential retail stores (with capacity limits and some social distancing required) and then a few weeks later malls and some restaurants with social distancing implemented and finally a few weeks later all dining and retail. Large event venues like arenas and other tourist attractions like theme parks may be the last stuff to come back. I think it will be staggered.
 

Disney Analyst

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I certainly will. Far from finding this new reality more convenient, I miss the “old ways” more than ever and can’t wait for their return. It seems premature and unrealistic to me to predict that the crisis will fundamentally change people’s shopping, dining, and entertainment habits in the long run.

I should say, I don’t mean us as consumers. I mean business owners who are now having to adapt quickly. They may just find it easier to switch to online models and not deal with leases and locations.
 

GoofGoof

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I certainly will. Far from finding this new reality more convenient, I miss the “old ways” more than ever and can’t wait for their return. It seems premature and unrealistic to me to predict that the crisis will fundamentally change people’s shopping, dining, and entertainment habits in the long run.
I work in an office and we had the ability to work from home occasionally but it was considered a perk or benefit and people generally wanted to do it more often. I know I will be happy to go back to the office. I even miss traffic ;)
 

Overlordkitty

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I work in an office and we had the ability to work from home occasionally but it was considered a perk or benefit and people generally wanted to do it more often. I know I will be happy to go back to the office. I even miss traffic ;)
I work at a hospital in the DC area, so I'm still going to work. Because of the reasons behind it, I've been trying to not be too gleeful that my 45 minute commute is now 15 minutes. I'm scared of the first week everyone is back on the road.
 

Angel Ariel

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Sit down Restaurants will continue. Some may go out of business but new places will open eventually. I think it’s very possible that when people start going back to work restaurants and bars are delayed in opening. They may still be takeout only for a short period after other businesses open. Eventually everything will be back. In other words it may not just be an announcement that everything opens at once. It might for example start with offices, manufacturing and non-essential retail stores (with capacity limits and some social distancing required) and then a few weeks later malls and some restaurants with social distancing implemented and finally a few weeks later all dining and retail. Large event venues like arenas and other tourist attractions like theme parks may be the last stuff to come back. I think it will be staggered.
Agreed
 

GoofGoof

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I should say, I don’t mean us as consumers. I mean business owners who are now having to adapt quickly. They may just find it easier to switch to online models and not deal with leases and locations.
Amazon was already starting down the road of killing off physical stores. One huge opportunity for online shopping that has been missed during this situation is grocery shopping. The online orders for either delivery or pickup near me have been so poor and ineffective that most people I know will never use the service again. They blew a big opportunity to make online grocery shopping more mainstream. I understand this whole thing is a logistical nightmare for those types of businesses and they were overwhelmed with orders, but if they were better prepared they could have exited this as a real economic winner. Missed opportunity for sure.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Amazon was already starting down the road of killing off physical stores. One huge opportunity for online shopping that has been missed during this situation is grocery shopping. The online orders for either delivery or pickup near me have been so **** poor and ineffective that most people I know will never use the service again. They blew a big opportunity to make online grocery shopping more mainstream. I understand this whole thing is a logistical nightmare for those types of businesses and they were overwhelmed with orders, but if they were better prepared they could have exited this as a real economic winner. Missed opportunity for sure.
My bestie in Delaware has only been using Instacart, and she's had zero issues. Online ordering here in MA has been a nightmare...incomplete orders, no substitutions, etc. etc.
 
Working from home is no where near as easy and enjoyable as most people think.

This sequester that we have to do at work is interesting. We moved in to the control center site in trailers and basically just work every other day (we rotate 12's so every day is generally not allowed). My building is straight midnights, that is not expected to change. It hasn't been awful overall, I miss my wife and house a lot though.

 

Angel Ariel

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I should say, I don’t mean us as consumers. I mean business owners who are now having to adapt quickly. They may just find it easier to switch to online models and not deal with leases and locations.
I work for a business that has had to move to a fully online model, but it is designed for in person, high-contact. I do not foresee the business remaining online after this is over, as it is really counter to the overall effectiveness. I still have people wondering when our in person classes will continue, even with all of the shutdown stuff. On the admin side, it’s been difficult to navigate the move to online only and I know my director wants nothing more than to go back to in person only as soon as possible.
 

Disney Analyst

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Amazon was already starting down the road of killing off physical stores. One huge opportunity for online shopping that has been missed during this situation is grocery shopping. The online orders for either delivery or pickup near me have been so **** poor and ineffective that most people I know will never use the service again. They blew a big opportunity to make online grocery shopping more mainstream. I understand this whole thing is a logistical nightmare for those types of businesses and they were overwhelmed with orders, but if they were better prepared they could have exited this as a real economic winner. Missed opportunity for sure.

It’s shocking how bad these grocery systems are. Today is the first day in weeks I’ve seen any open slots for Instacart. Most stores don’t have their own, and the ones that do are terrible and not user friendly.

Now would be the time to build great software and sell it to every grocery chain.
 

Polynesia

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As someone who has spent 10+ years in accounting/finance at a F100, I find it funny that everyone thinks us "bean counters" have any say in how things are run. We just provide scenarios based on sets of assumptions that operations provides. Operations makes all the decisions.
Love your post. I’ve been a bean counter for 40+ years and you are exactly right. Bean counters don’t decide anything. They provide the data in different formats and the higher ups make the ultimate decision. Many times the decision is the least desirable and finance is left to make it work on the financials. That happens more often than not.
 

Patcheslee

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I can’t speak for anyone else, but contactless delivery is nice for some things, but there is also something to be said for the experiece of being out in a restaurant. I don’t exlect that to disappear.
Our local FB group for restaurants offering delivery has brought up an issue with the contactless delivery drivers are dealing with: ppl are no longer tipping for the service. I can see where it would effect some income for them. :(
 

Polynesia

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Disclaimer: This is, once again, not a political post. I am posting this as it relates to Walt Disney World potentially reopening. Please don't dive into presidential politics in response to this. Pretty please?

Dr. Zeke Emanuel, who is an adviser to Joe Biden on the COVID-19 situation, has been making the rounds on the news shows warning that Americans should prepare for restrictions to be in place for the next 18 months. He is not suggesting that all businesses are going to remain closed or that we can't go to work for 18 months. But he is saying that he believes there are still going to have to be serious social restrictions in place.

Of particular interest to the idea of WDW and Disneyland reopening, he said, "The truth is we have no choice. ... We cannot return to normal until there's a vaccine. Conferences, concerts, sporting events, religious services, dinner in a restaurant, none of that will resume until we find a vaccine, a treatment, or a cure."

Is he right or wrong? I have no idea. Personally, I find it hard to believe that all churches and restaurants in America are going to stay shut down until a vaccine is found. But major concerts, sporting events, and places like WDW and DL? I could see how at least that argument might be made.

Here are some sources for his remarks. In order to avoid the appearance of getting political, I am providing one from a right-wing source and one from a left-wing source. :)


That is one mans opinion which doesn’t really mean much of anything. Everyone has one.
 
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