Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DCBaker]

That's correct and cast will be paid thru April 19.

"hourly parks and resorts cast members"

 

[Sweet Thing]

Disney through their actions has shown they aren't going to be a leader in terms of making operating decisions based on this health emergency. If you want to know when Disney will open up, look to see what USO is going to do. Disney will follow it.

The difference between Universal and Disney is that Universal does not have unions to contend with. Disney has many unions that they have to meet with to come to an agreement that works for each different bargaining unit. There have been meetings all week with the different unions since the Stay at Home order was announced. I believe they don't want to announce a solid date since this is such a fluid situation. Not to mention, if they follow what Shanghai has done, they won't be opening everything all at once.

 

[GoofGoof]

I have tickets to a Broadway musical in July.. I am not even entertaining a thought of Broadway not being opened back up by that time. This stupid virus has cancelled too many plans already. I cancelled a Vegas trip almost 2 weeks ago now, I might have to cancel our June Punta Cana trip, for the 2nd consecutive year (last year was over tourist deaths)...but that would be more for work reasons than social distancing related. However.. We will be in NYC. I will not allow myself to think otherwise.

Lots of things will be open by July. Broadway is similar to pro sports, it’s hard to say. You can open retail stores and restaurants and implement social distancing by restricting the number of people in at a time or the distance between tables. Unless they leave every other seat and every other row open people will be right on top of each other in a theater or sports arena. I think they will be back some time this summer but not sure when or in what form.

 

[DisneyCane]

No it will happen over time.

Model paints dire picture for Florida hospitals if shelter-in-place isn’t ordered

There are fewer than 49,000 hospital beds in the state. With three months of social distancing, data scientists say, the number of hospitalizations could peak around 185,000.

www.google.com

So that model is predicting over 1,000,000 cases in Florida? Even at 1,000 new cases per day that's 3 years. For the 185,000 hospitalizations to create the implied shortage of 100,000+ beds, there would have to be over 1,000,000 simultaneous cases.

Dr. Birx said yesterday that the facts on the ground are not matching these dire models. The model in the UK that was predicting crazy numbers was updated yesterday or the day before also.

She specifically said that to get to those numbers in the worst case models either there are an extremely large number of asymptomatics or they would have to have the spread completely wrong.

 

[jmp85]

Lots of things will be open by July. Broadway is similar to pro sports, it’s hard to say. You can open retail stores and restaurants and implement social distancing by restricting the number of people in at a time or the distance between tables. Unless they leave every other seat and every other row open people will be right on top of each other in a theater or sports arena. I think they will be back some time this summer but not sure when or in what form.

Agree with GoofGoof. The inputs into all these models you keep hearing about are going to constantly change as we collect more and more data. For some of these inputs, a very small change can have a huge impact on the timing and/or severity of the projection. We'll continue to be able to make better projections as the data comes in.

 

[DCBaker]

Wow.

"SeaWorld Entertainment is indefinitely furloughing more than 90% of its employees on April 1, the latest economic hit to Central Florida and around the country from the coronavirus pandemic.
SeaWorld, which is based in Orlando and operates 12 theme parks across the country, announced the move in a SEC filing Friday.
Employees won’t get paid after March 31, the filing said."

SeaWorld furloughs more than 90% of its employees over coronavirus pandemic

SeaWorld Entertainment is indefinitely furloughing more than 90% of its employees on April 1, the latest economic hit to Central Florida and around the country from the coronavirus pandemic. Thousa…

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[Parker in NYC]

I have tickets to a Broadway musical in July.. I am not even entertaining a thought of Broadway not being opened back up by that time. This stupid virus has cancelled too many plans already. I cancelled a Vegas trip almost 2 weeks ago now, I might have to cancel our June Punta Cana trip, for the 2nd consecutive year (last year was over tourist deaths)...but that would be more for work reasons than social distancing related. However.. We will be in NYC. I will not allow myself to think otherwise.

An immediate member of my family works at a major producing organization on Broadway (producing some of the biggest shows currently running) - and the internal consensus as of yesterday is mid-August. Just a few days ago, they were aiming for Mid-July to early August. So, things can change but one of the greatest obstacles they're facing is rethinking theater seating. With social distancing here at the epicenter (that will continue according to them, at least for a while after business resumes), cautiously sparser attendance mixed with limited, spaced out seating will greatly affect overhead/ticket prices. If you think it's expensive now...

Also, most new and smaller shows won't make it until then. The old warhorses are most likely safe, Lloyd Webber said Phantom's good to go! The Tony Awards have also been pushed back from June 7th to an as-yet-unannounced date. First time in history. And since many new shows still haven't opened, the awards may be cancelled altogether. There are a lot of "mays" in this but consider that shows can't be streamed at home like films are. If the Oscars are affected this year, they at least have avenues of distribution.

 

[jmp85]

Model paints dire picture for Florida hospitals if shelter-in-place isn’t ordered

There are fewer than 49,000 hospital beds in the state. With three months of social distancing, data scientists say, the number of hospitalizations could peak around 185,000.

www.google.com

So that model is predicting over 1,000,000 cases in Florida? Even at 1,000 new cases per day that's 3 years.

Dr. Birx said yesterday that the facts on the ground are not matching these dire models. The model in the UK that was predicting crazy numbers was updated yesterday or the day before also.

She specifically said that to get to those numbers in the worst case models either there are an extremely large number of asymptomatics or they would have to have the spread completely wrong.
[/QUOTE]

Haha, yes, it is projecting more than 70% will be infected even with "social distancing." Click on the link to read more, but the model inputs (which are available for public view) seem to be way out of line with anything we're seeing in the U.S. (or around the world).

 

[Bob Harlem]

Seaworld blinked first

"On March 27, 2020, the Company announced that, in response to the global COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting temporary park closures, it will or has temporarily furloughed over 90% of its current employees as of April 1, 2020. The furloughed employees will not receive compensation from the Company during the furlough period after March 31, 2020; however, subject to local regulations, these employees will be eligible for unemployment benefits. The furlough period is uncertain at this time due to the temporary park closures and will be reassessed as business conditions dictate. The Company looks forward to welcoming back its ambassadors and guests when it is safe to open again."

SeaWorld furloughs 90% of employees amid coronavirus pandemic closures

After closing its parks due to the coronavirus, SeaWorld Entertainment Co. announced Friday that it will furlough 90% of its workers without compensation.

www.clickorlando.com

 

[Horizons '83]

Wow.

"SeaWorld Entertainment is indefinitely furloughing more than 90% of its employees on April 1, the latest economic hit to Central Florida and around the country from the coronavirus pandemic.
SeaWorld, which is based in Orlando and operates 12 theme parks across the country, announced the move in a SEC filing Friday.
Employees won’t get paid after March 31, the filing said."

SeaWorld furloughs more than 90% of its employees over coronavirus pandemic

SeaWorld Entertainment is indefinitely furloughing more than 90% of its employees on April 1, the latest economic hit to Central Florida and around the country from the coronavirus pandemic. Thousa…

www.orlandosentinel.com

Crazy but furloughs are better than complete layoffs.

 

[hopemax]

You guys know about the COVID Tracking Website? They are gathering all the State data in one place. And they have spreadsheets for each state by day. So here's FL. Although, it is a day behind the Dashboard which is updated twice a day. So we will be able to all count for ourselves how many days it takes for Florida to double the death rate, as we go forward.

Florida

Cases, testing, hospitalization, outcomes, long-term-care, and race and ethnicity data for Florida, plus data sources, notes, and grade.

covidtracking.com

 

[DisneyCane]

Lots of things will be open by July. Broadway is similar to pro sports, it’s hard to say. You can open retail stores and restaurants and implement social distancing by restricting the number of people in at a time or the distance between tables. Unless they leave every other seat and every other row open people will be right on top of each other in a theater or sports arena. I think they will be back some time this summer but not sure when or in what form.

It would create a bit of an issue for season tickets but there is no practical reason that you can't leave every other row empty and then have empty seats between families/parties like a restaurant.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[GoofGoof]

It would create a bit of an issue for season tickets but there is no practical reason that you can't leave every other row empty and then have empty seats between families/parties like a restaurant.

It’s possible. They could split season tickets to every other game or something. It would be hard to organize but may be necessary. I think as things open they will be temporarily altered In all aspects of life. Anyone thinking things are just going back to normal immediately is probably just kidding themselves.

 

[Parker in NYC]

It would create a bit of an issue for season tickets but there is no practical reason that you can't leave every other row empty and then have empty seats between families/parties like a restaurant.

Except.... cost.

 

[Lilofan]

Seaworld blinked first

"On March 27, 2020, the Company announced that, in response to the global COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting temporary park closures, it will or has temporarily furloughed over 90% of its current employees as of April 1, 2020. The furloughed employees will not receive compensation from the Company during the furlough period after March 31, 2020; however, subject to local regulations, these employees will be eligible for unemployment benefits. The furlough period is uncertain at this time due to the temporary park closures and will be reassessed as business conditions dictate. The Company looks forward to welcoming back its ambassadors and guests when it is safe to open again."

SeaWorld furloughs 90% of employees amid coronavirus pandemic closures

After closing its parks due to the coronavirus, SeaWorld Entertainment Co. announced Friday that it will furlough 90% of its workers without compensation.

www.clickorlando.com

Looks like after April 19, reality will set in for WDW cast.

 

[GoofGoof]

Except.... cost.

For sports the bigger paycheck is the TV money. Many teams don’t sell out anyway, at least for baseball. No clue what they would do for NFL

 

[Parker in NYC]

For sports the bigger paycheck is the TV money. Many teams don’t sell out anyway, at least for baseball. No clue what they would do for NFL

Oops, still talking Broadway!

 

[seascape]

Disney should step up and offer to buy Seaworld and pay all their employees. I would be happy to sell them my stock at todays closing price if they agree to rehire and pay their employees. Seaworld has been a key part of Orlando for years, long before Universal and must be saved.

 

[Polynesia]

So that model is predicting over 1,000,000 cases in Florida? Even at 1,000 new cases per day that's 3 years. For the 185,000 hospitalizations to create the implied shortage of 100,000+ beds, there would have to be over 1,000,000 simultaneous cases.

Dr. Birx said yesterday that the facts on the ground are not matching these dire models. The model in the UK that was predicting crazy numbers was updated yesterday or the day before also.

She specifically said that to get to those numbers in the worst case models either there are an extremely large number of asymptomatics or they would have to have the spread completely wrong.

So much misinformation is being released. Florida has been taking steps to slow this down. Of course there will be hot spots in the state. Miami is having more cases and curfews are in place.