Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[phillip9698]

I just looked it up, you’re correct on the $275.
If WDW employees are furloughed or laid off, many will actually be bringing home more than if they were working.

What a genius bill.

Those people arent going to pocket that extra money, its going right into the economy which is exactly what we want.

 

[Jwink]

Most cast members bring home more than the $275. Plus they’ll be without healthcare. Of course, they can get Obamacare which is pricey and has high deductibles. Many cast members are already out working at another job they just got. So sitting it out with no health insurance and not really making any more money isn’t desirable.

Furlough is with healthcare though. You don’t lose it

 

[DCBaker]

Expert:

White House coronavirus task force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx cautioned Thursday against models that predict alarming increases in coronavirus infections and deaths in the U.S.

Also read through this entire thread -

 

[Parker in NYC]

Expert:

White House coronavirus task force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx cautioned Thursday against models that predict alarming increases in coronavirus infections and deaths in the U.S.

Birx, speaking at a White House press briefing, singled out a recent study on the United Kingdom that originally predicted 500,000 people would die from the virus and has since been revised down to predict 20,000 deaths in the U.K. She said the data the government has collected does not show that 20 percent of the U.S. population would be infected with COVID-19, cautioning against predictions that say so.

“When people start talking about 20 percent of a population getting infected, it is very scary but we don’t have data that matches that based on the experience,” Birx said.

“There’s no … reality on the ground where we can see that 60 to 70 percent of Americans are going to get infected in the next eight to 12 weeks,” Birx later continued.

Her guess is as good as mine, really. No one knows anything. And hey, I'd rather people freak out and consider this to be the most dangerous thing our country has faced since 9/11 so they can stay home, follow the rules, and get us back to work. Whatever it takes to scare them into submission. Isn't that what the government has done for hundreds of years anyway?

 

[LittleBuford]

Birx, speaking at a White House press briefing, singled out a recent study on the United Kingdom that originally predicted 500,000 people would die from the virus and has since been revised down to predict 20,000 deaths in the U.K.

As I noted in earlier posts, it hasn’t been revised down. The original model itself said there would be up to 500,000 deaths unless social-distance measures were introduced, bringing the number down to 20,000. The lower estimate hinges on the continued application of these measures. Please see my earlier posts for relevant links.

 

[Polynesia]

Expert:

White House coronavirus task force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx cautioned Thursday against models that predict alarming increases in coronavirus infections and deaths in the U.S.

Birx, speaking at a White House press briefing, singled out a recent study on the United Kingdom that originally predicted 500,000 people would die from the virus and has since been revised down to predict 20,000 deaths in the U.K. She said the data the government has collected does not show that 20 percent of the U.S. population would be infected with COVID-19, cautioning against predictions that say so.

“When people start talking about 20 percent of a population getting infected, it is very scary but we don’t have data that matches that based on the experience,” Birx said.

“There’s no … reality on the ground where we can see that 60 to 70 percent of Americans are going to get infected in the next eight to 12 weeks,” Birx later continued.

Unfortunately, reports have come out to politicize this crisis. I search for articles from the CDC or other reputable sources. I read an article about Michael Levitt, a Nobel prize winner, who also says the numbers don’t support a long recovery. He monitors all the countries numbers and says they are coming down just as China did. He predicted chinas stats within 100 cases and deaths. I won’t listen to CNN or FOX. One goes with the crazy panic and the other goes the other way.

 

[RobWDW1971]

Unfortunately, reports have come out to politicize this crisis. I search for articles from the CDC or other reputable sources. I read an article about Michael Levitt, a Nobel prize winner, who also says the numbers don’t support a long recovery. He monitors all the countries numbers and says they are coming down just as China did. He predicted chinas stats within 100 cases and deaths. I won’t listen to CNN or FOX. One goes with the crazy panic and the other goes the other way.

Yup, that's why I stick to the numbers. Data is neither apathetic or empathetic. They just are what they are and no numbers from anywhere on the earth are warranting this level of panic compared to the other levels of annual, accepted fatalities.

 

[21stamps]

Those people arent going to pocket that extra money, its going right into the economy which is exactly what we want.

I hope so. I really do. I hope it makes up for all of the other people who won’t be able to do so if their jobs don’t return and their loss of income is too massive.

 

[wdwmagic]

Jeff Shell, Comcast NBC UNIVERSAL CEO announces he himself felt ill and tested positive for COVID19 and sends mass communication to Universal employees. The company states they have dedicated 150 Million Dollars to taking care of their employees as of now. You can read it on UOTEAM.com

Meanwhie, not a peep from the Walt Disney Company.

very soon

 

[natatomic]

Deliveries in a hospital actually typically either lose money or maybe make the hospital a $100-$200 dollars at most. (I get to hear All about this in our monthly meetings). Deliveries have an almost nonexistent margin and typically are considered “a loss leader” for a hospital system. A standard vaginal delivery with no complications costs the hospital between $2500-3000. This does not include the OB who typically bills separate of the hospital.

A delivery is a very emotional event and typically a woman’s first inpatient hospital stay. Hospitals take this on so they can “hook” a woman to that hospital. If deliveries were profitable, everyone would be doing them like hip and knee replacements. However, birthing centers have actually gone down significantly over the last 25 years and most hospitals have lost OB services.

could you explain how that’s possible? I’ve given birth 3 times, and the bills were always enormous. The one that really got me, however, was my second. She was stillborn at full term. I birthed her without medication. She obviously needed none of the usual stuff newborns gets since she was dead. And I was in and out of the hospital in 11 hours - didn’t even stay overnight. Our bill was $25,000. Insurance covered all but $3,500, but how on earth does a hospital not profit from $25,000. I didn’t need surgery, I didn’t have an anesthesiologist....there’s no way they lost money there.

 

[DCBaker]

Now included - highway checkpoints.

DeSantis also says Florida will institute a two-week ban on new vacation rentals.

 

[celluloid]

very soon

That is good. Seems late.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The reason Ford didn't partake is right before the collapse, Ford mortgaged the whole company, even the Ford logo, so they were flush with money and didn't need it.

FWIW:
On December 19, 2014, the U.S. Treasury sold its remaining holdings of Ally Financial, essentially ending the program. TARP recovered funds totalling $441.7 billion from $426.4 billion invested, earning a $15.3 billion profit or an annualized rate of return of 0.6% and perhaps a loss when adjusted for inflation.

Good to know. Even if it could be considered a loss when adjusted for inflation, at least more money came back into the treasury then initially went out, unlike the money handed out by the government for those clean energy solar projects that went bust and were a total loss.

 

[John park hopper]

could you explain how that’s possible? I’ve given birth 3 times, and the bills were always enormous. The one that really got me, however, was my second. She was stillborn at full term. I birthed her without medication. She obviously needed none of the usual stuff newborns gets since she was dead. And I was in and out of the hospital in 11 hours - didn’t even stay overnight. Our bill was $25,000. Insurance covered all but $3,500, but how on earth does a hospital not profit from $25,000. I didn’t need surgery, I didn’t have an anesthesiologist....there’s no way they lost money there.

Too many people just let the insurance cover what ever the charges are. You have the right to question/protest any charges you feel are unreasonable.

 

[peter11435]

I think a lot of people in this country are going to be in “their time of greatest need”. Let’s not pretend otherwise. I just pray, every night, that our economy can bounce back as quickly as possible... that soon we’ll find out when it is allowed to start bouncing back.

No doubt nearly everyone is in need. I never said otherwise. But financially you can’t deny that the poorest among us are and will be the most in need.

The point of all this is so that our economy can have a change at bouncing back. Some people at the bottom having a little extra will only support that initiative.

 

[JoeT63]

Yup, that's why I stick to the numbers. Data is neither apathetic or empathetic. They just are what they are and no numbers from anywhere on the earth are warranting this level of panic compared to the other levels of annual, accepted fatalities.

Yep...assuming the numbers are from a reputable source and known to be raw data. Otherwise the old adage holds true: there are liars, damn liars, and statisticians.

 

[GoofGoof]

Thank you. I knew it was short term, but couldn't remember the exact time.



Yup. I haven't followed everything in the bill closely, but what I've read seems reasonable. There's money to help those who lost jobs, to help keep things moving for now and going forward, and to help businesses of different sizes. I hope it works as intended.

So far Wall Street likes the bill. Not sure that’s saying much, but it’s something. Unemployment benefits should be nearly immediate and helps businesses that furlough their employees. The checks help too. We want the workers to be ready to jump back into action as soon as it’s safe to do so and the easiest way to do that is to furlough not lay off. It also sends a powerful signal that these job cuts are temporary. 3M+ unemployment claims in a week is unimaginable, what we don’t know is how many are furloughed vs true layoffs. The sooner we can get things open the better chance most of the jobs will come back. That doesn‘t mean we should jump the gun. We need to follow health expert’s advise and make sound decisions weighing all impacts or all of this will have been for nothing.

 

[thomas998]

Too many people just let the insurance cover what ever the charges are. You have the right to question/protest any charges you feel are unreasonable.

You will also find that hospitals and doctors will often charge more to someone with insurance than they will charge someone with no insurance. I experienced that when I had an scan of my upper GI... I had it at the same place as my aunt, within 1 month of hers and by the same doctor. The only difference was I had insurance and my aunt didn't so she told them up front she didn't have insurance. She ended up paying the full amount they charged her when she had it done and that amount was less than the deductible that I was charged and my insurance paid 80% leaving with with 20%... Clearly a case of the place has 2 different prices one for people with no insurance and one with.... and it annoyed me to no end to think that because I was paying insurance premiums every month that I was also getting completely hosed on the costs. If I could have done it all over again I would have just told them I had no insurance and saved money.

 

[21stamps]

No doubt nearly everyone is in need. I never said otherwise. But financially you can’t deny that the poorest among us are and will be the most in need.

The point of all this is so that our economy can have a change at bouncing back. Some people at the bottom having a little extra will only support that initiative.

I think it depends on how long this goes on, and what consumer confidence is, afterwards. We’ll see.
I was originally extremely optimistic, but as time goes on Im growing more and more concerned. I have telemeetings every morning, we went from keeping all staff, to a few days later the sudden “we’re going to lay-off and/or furlough 50% of employees”, to now today “we may not bring back the folks who are furloughed”. It’s terrible. I hate it. Those people will not see unemployment benefits that are equal or close to what they were making while working, and worse, they could have never suspected these layoffs. I have a heart for those people! I don’t only have a heart for those who make under $20 per hour, it’s not just <$20ph folks who will feel an impact.. some will feel a much greater one. I realize how their lives are upended by this, it’s heartbreaking. This is the toughest part of my career in the past 20+ years. I can’t even describe what it feels like. Especially at a time when the economy was so strong, specifically the company I work for was having our best year to date, followed by 2019 being the best year to date at that point.

All of us, America, or state by state, just need an end date.. that’s when we’ll all start to see thru the fog and even be able to somewhat predict what will happen.

 

[Lilofan]

Hospital worker with coronavirus found dead with child by her body

Diedre Wilkes was a mammogram technician at a Coweta County, Georgia, hospital. Her body was found in the living room of her home in the Atlanta area.

www.nbcnews.com

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