Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[correcaminos]

I always carry a tissue, as my nose is prone to running after temperature changes from a cold outdoors to a warm indoors.
But my point wasn't about me, or the extra careful people here who carry multiple masks on them.
It was about the average person making the average trip of average duration into a store.
The vast majority of them aren't (weren't) likely to have any mask on them beyond the one that they were wearing.
Most people making a short outing into a store weren't making "a plan" of an emergency mask.

I get what you are saying. Those without issues don't carry. Overplanners or ones who do would. I just run too many things to not, but my spouse doesn't carry extras. Though I did make him put some in the car.

 

[mmascari]

If that happens you just go commando, you still have pants hopefully

That’s severity dependent.

 

[mmascari]

Most people making a short outing into a store weren't making "a plan" of an emergency mask.

You missed my point, the mask doesn’t matter here. It doesn’t change anything.

The person who blows a wet snotball into their hand, elbow, or sleeve is no more prepared either.

Presence of a mask or not doesn’t change anything.

Although a store is more likely to have a replacement free mask than a shirt.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

That’s severity dependent.

Depends. That’s not a point of view from myself, that’s what you need. Depends.

 

[Tom P.]

Well any deaths aren't good and it does seem like there is a lot more. I'm just trying to figure out if it's just because of sheer volume of people getting Omicron that it seems like it's more deadly than Delta, or if apples to apples, it just really is more deadly than Delta.

I'm not sure I'm making sense.

Pretty certain it is due to sheer volume of cases. I haven't heard anyone, on either "side" of these debates, including medical professionals, argue that Omicron is more deadly than Delta. Some people have objected to characterizations of Omicron as being "mild," but I haven't heard anyone claim it's worse than previous variants in terms of severity of disease.

 

[mmascari]

I can't read it so just asking because I'm truly curious - are they counting apples to apples? Number of cases/death -% for Delta and numbers of cases/deaths-% for Omicron and Omicron comes out higher using those variables?

The headline says the amount not the rate.

I’m sure those impacted are glad the rate is lower but that because there are so many more that even with a lower rate the amount is larger.

That surely gives their families comfort.

 

[Ayla]

I would,

I always carry a spare, for the exact reasons talked about in this thread.

 

[dreday3]

The headline says the amount not the rate.

I’m sure those impacted are glad the rate is lower but that because there are so many more that even with a lower rate the amount is larger.

That surely gives their families comfort.

Never mind, waste of my time.

 

[mmascari]

Never mind, waste of my time.

That’s fair.

I reread the first post like 12 times trying to figure out how it wasn’t dismissing a larger death count because of a lower rate. That the headline “more” might be deceiving, like so many headlines are, because it was comparing raw number of deaths instead of a rate based on infections. I wasn’t able to find a way to read it not like that. May not have been what you meant, but I was unable to read it any other way.

Here’s another tweet that says this was all very predictable and not a surprising outcome.

 

[dreday3]

That’s fair.

I reread the first post like 12 times trying to figure out how it wasn’t dismissing a larger death count because of a lower rate. That the headline “more” might be deceiving, like so many headlines are, because it was comparing raw number of deaths instead of a rate based on infections. I wasn’t able to find a way to read it not like that. May not have been what you meant, but I was unable to read it any other way.

Here’s another tweet that says this was all very predictable and not a surprising outcome.

That's not how I meant it, pretty sure my posting history would agree with that, but take it however you want, I'm not here to convince you otherwise (and don't really care to).

No worries, no arguments.

 

[DisneyCane]

That’s fair.

I reread the first post like 12 times trying to figure out how it wasn’t dismissing a larger death count because of a lower rate. That the headline “more” might be deceiving, like so many headlines are, because it was comparing raw number of deaths instead of a rate based on infections. I wasn’t able to find a way to read it not like that. May not have been what you meant, but I was unable to read it any other way.

Here’s another tweet that says this was all very predictable and not a surprising outcome.

I guess a simple way to state it is that Omicron is less deadly but will cause more deaths due to the much higher transmissibility.

Your risk if you are infected with Omicron is much lower than with prior variants but you have a higher risk of contracting it.

 

[Incomudro]

Pretty certain it is due to sheer volume of cases. I haven't heard anyone, on either "side" of these debates, including medical professionals, argue that Omicron is more deadly than Delta. Some people have objected to characterizations of Omicron as being "mild," but I haven't heard anyone claim it's worse than previous variants in terms of severity of disease.

If the Queen of England is weathering her infection well, I consider that to be a safe bet that an omicron infection can be handled well by most people.

 

[danlb_2000]

If the Queen of England is weathering her infection well, I consider that to be a safe bet that an omicron infection can be handled well by most people.

The families of 10s of thousands of Americans would disagree with you on that.

 

[drizgirl]

If the Queen of England is weathering her infection well, I consider that to be a safe bet that an omicron infection can be handled well by most people.

I also expect that the Queen has round the clock medical attention and access to all the cutting edge anti-virals the rest of us would have no luck accessing.

 

[Nubs70]

The families of 10s of thousands of Americans would disagree with you on that.

It's good the be the Queen

 

[Heppenheimer]

I also expect that the Queen has round the clock medical attention and access to all the cutting edge anti-virals the rest of us would have no luck accessing.

Probably not. Unless she gets severely ill, I doubt they would risk unproven treatments, when the approved medical therapies work pretty well.

What is different for the Queen is that she will probably jump to the front of the line if the UK had a shortage of the approved treatments. I have no idea if availability is a problem there right now.

 

[Lilofan]

If the Queen of England is weathering her infection well, I consider that to be a safe bet that an omicron infection can be handled well by most people.

"Mild cold like symptoms" in what her team is describing , but for someone who is 95 years old is a concern.

 

[Kevin_W]

Out of curiosity - has anyone yet received their free test kits from the US government? It's sure been a while and I haven't gotten mine yet.

 

[JoeCamel]

Out of curiosity - has anyone yet received their free test kits from the US government? It's sure been a while and I haven't gotten mine yet.

It took a couple of weeks but I got mine, ordered when the site went live

 

[DisneyCane]

Out of curiosity - has anyone yet received their free test kits from the US government? It's sure been a while and I haven't gotten mine yet.

It took a couple of weeks but I got mine, ordered when the site went live

How efficient! I guess the tests will be ready for the next wave since the Omicron wave is pretty much done. Hopefully these tests that they spend however many billions purchasing will have sensitivity to whatever the next variant is.