Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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21stamps

21stamps

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Andrew C said:
The person who was laid off should be eligible for those additional unemployment benefits, however. Bottom line, they are trying to provide relief as quickly as possible and each way of doing so has its pros and cons...
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The original proposal was a lot more reality based than what we ended up with.
 
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Lilofan

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HongKongFooy said:
Out of the 3 parties I personally know that will qualify that is the case for one of them.

The other 2 are holding real estate equity(2.2 million and approx 5 million respectively)


And then there are the select everyday folk in the immediate Bay Area of California like some teachers and small shop owners or the baseball coach who have personal homes with 1.3 to 2 million in equity who bought or inherited homes back in 1978. They are living in very pricy homes but will meet the threshold.

If you are one of those above and you need money, sell your junk and don't eat at the public trough.
Mucus feeding ain't right unless you truly need assistance.
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Very true. A blue collar family struggled and saved to buy a 2 bedroom 1 bath beach bungalow with a wall unit AC in Corona Del Mar, CA in 1975 for 49K. It's valued today at $2M.
 
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Lilofan

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TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives said:
It's supposed to be $600/week for four months ON TOP of what your state unemployment offers. So if you get $300 from the state ever week, you could potentially get $900/week for the next four months. That's not bad at all. When I was laid off in 2018, $900/week would've made things a lot easier than the $250 I was receiving.
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Some I know are a good handyman on the side. They can do well with continuous undeclared side income on top of unemployment and a stimulus check.
 
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TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives said:
Which proposal? I've seen about a dozen.
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GoofGoof said:
The original house proposal had more money ($2K per adult) and also had higher phase outs. I wanna say $400K for married instead of $200K.
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I’d have to search for a link, but the original republican proposal was not a blanket sum, but based on income at all levels, as in lower income too.

At the end of the day, Andrew is correct in that they wanted to get this out as quickly as possible with the least amount of paperwork (requirements) to hold it up.

I apologize for my disgust and cynicism over the news today. I guess that happens when you wake up and have to start calling people letting them know that they either no longer have a job, or are furloughed for nearly a month, and may not have a job at all after that. Trying to tell them what resources are available, based on an overview email from HR.. and then seeing that most of these people won’t even see this “government bonus”.
The whole thing just sucks.
 
ELG13

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Hopefully this doesn't get buried but....I know may 9th is pretty much not going to happen. I've known it since I sawthe first case of this in the US. But...my question is IF it were to open up, say May 1st....do you think there would be a mad rush of people rescheduling and the parks would just be bonkers? We are talking about just cancelling. I'm super upset...we have a deep emotional attachment for some reasons I've mentioned before.....but I'm also a realist and I want the park to stay closed as long as necessary to get this issue fixed. I'm just think even if some magic cure appears tomorrow and the all clear is give for May, the parks may be flooded. Thoughts??
 
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21stamps

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Andrew C said:
If you are looking at just one component of the bill maybe...but different parts of it will hit different people...
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I realize people will get on a moral high ground fit over this.. however, I agree with what’s listed below, in bold.
This was part of the original proposition, and imo, should have stayed.

People with incomes under $2,500 would be eligible for $600, or $1,200 for a married couple.
www.npr.org

Senate Republicans Unveil New Coronavirus Relief Package

The bill, which still needs to be negotiated with Senate Democrats, provides direct cash payments, loan guarantees for impacted businesses and more resources for testing and development of vaccines.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
 
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TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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21stamps said:
I realize people will get on a moral high ground fit over this.. however, I agree with what’s listed below, in bold.
This was part of the original proposition, and imo, should have stayed.

People with incomes under $2,500 would be eligible for $600, or $1,200 for a married couple.
www.npr.org

Senate Republicans Unveil New Coronavirus Relief Package

The bill, which still needs to be negotiated with Senate Democrats, provides direct cash payments, loan guarantees for impacted businesses and more resources for testing and development of vaccines.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
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I don't completely disagree with you. I think part of the reason is because they're taking past tax returns into question, thus if you just started a job in 2018 (or 2019) because you graduated college (or another reason) towards the end of the year, it may not accurately reflect what your current situation is.

Once again, I think they should've just cut them for everyone and then form a decision based on returns through the end of 2020 on whether or not you should have to repay some of it or not.
 
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PeculiarReality

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ELG13 said:
Hopefully this doesn't get buried but....I know may 9th is pretty much not going to happen. I've known it since I sawthe first case of this in the US. But...my question is IF it were to open up, say May 1st....do you think there would be a mad rush of people rescheduling and the parks would just be bonkers? We are talking about just cancelling. I'm super upset...we have a deep emotional attachment for some reasons I've mentioned before.....but I'm also a realist and I want the park to stay closed as long as necessary to get this issue fixed. I'm just think even if some magic cure appears tomorrow and the all clear is give for May, the parks may be flooded. Thoughts??
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Honestly, no one can say for sure, but judging by how many people are still ignoring voluntary self-quarantine and social distancing procedures (and how crowded stores are still getting), you're probably right. Soon as the all-clear is given, the parks are going to be packed with sardines people.

From what I can tell, there are two likely outcomes for the parks right now.

A) The parks are stuffed to capacity for the first few weeks when they reopen. This will lead to more sickness because potential carriers will go due to feeling absolutely fine and not realizing they're sick, factoring in how Disney crowds always are: shoulder to shoulder, front to back mobs.

B) The parks are almost completely empty for the first few weeks with the exception of those locals brave enough to go. This will lead to more major monetary issues for Disney, which will not be easy to bounce back from, since many locals are AP holders and not the most steady source of income.

Neither of these is a good option, but from everything I've been seeing, they're the most likely results of Disney reopening in May. Probably even if they were to reopen as late as October.
 
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