lazyboy97o
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She was still interacting with the public, refusing to engage in behavior that limited spread and spreading a disease even though she believed she was fine.
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GimpYancIent
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Get your facts together and stop the spin. The conversation was about todays First Responders and the COVID vaccine.
lazyboy97o
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What facts are wrong? A- and pre-symptomatic spread aren’t a thing with COVID-19? Or just not a thing with first responders?
ToTBellHop
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For those waiting, Pfizer expects to apply for EUA for ages 2-4.9 during the first half of 2022 and for ages 0.5-1.9 during the second half of 2022. Not as soon as I would’ve hoped…
Heppenheimer
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The results would be the same, though, if a first responder exposed someone to a preventable disease through their own inaction (ie, not taking a vaccine).
mikejs78
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Source? I had heard much sooner.
Heppenheimer
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Wasn't Moderna planning to apply for everyone down to 6 months at once? Or did I get that one wrong?
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ToTBellHop
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The source is Pfizer at today’s meeting.
Pfizer is expecting initial data for use of its Covid-19 vaccine in 2- to 5-year-olds in the fourth quarter of 2021, the company's chief scientific officer Dr. Mikael Dolsten said in prepared remarks ahead of a Tuesday earnings call.
Pfizer is also projecting that there will be an initial data readout for use of its vaccine in children ages 6 months to 2 years old in the first quarter of 2022.
Pfizer has projected US Food and Drug Administration emergency use authorization for the vaccine in 2- to 5-year-olds in the first half of 2022, and for children ages 6 months to 2 years old in the second half of the year.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices is meeting today to discuss Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine for children ages 5 to 11. Once ACIP makes a recommendation on the use of the vaccine and the CDC director signs off, shots can start to be administered.
Timmay
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So maybe we can put this whole thing about Police/EMS/Fire to rest, because here is the deal…
I was both a cop and paramedic from ‘87-‘04. There were five or six different immunization jabby things required if you wanted to do those jobs. Not any fuss from anyone in those professions. Quite frankly there shouldn’t be any fuss today about the Covid vaccine either, but…
(And here is where I fall kind of in the middle)
Some of the cities having the biggest problems with the mandates are the ones that have tended to treat their agencies the poorest over the last several years, in some cases twenty years (hint hint there NYC). I personally don’t see this as the time to be digging in their heels in protest, but I understand why they are doing it.
mikejs78
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I saw that on CNN but have not been able to corroborate it.. Hoping they are just being cautious in their estimates, that's an insane timeline.
ToTBellHop
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Agreed, but this far it has been 5-6 months between approvals. If that continues, we are looking at perhaps April down to 2 and September down to 6 months.
mikejs78
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If they get the data read out though in December I don't see why it would take that long. Typically it's been about a month to a month and a half between the initial data readout and full approval. So let's say full approval comes in mid December, that means authorization could happen late January / early February.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
So do you think then this is more of a case of wanting to be heard and supported?
Bob Harlem
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Cases in Orange county are hovering around the 50-80/day mark this week, which is about half what it was last week.
Positivity is down to 3.24% (From ~ 3.50% last week), and testing remains high despite it.
Covid Hospitalization dropped below 2000 this week, it's now at 1901, about 550 less than a week ago.
Positivity is down to 3.24% (From ~ 3.50% last week), and testing remains high despite it.
Covid Hospitalization dropped below 2000 this week, it's now at 1901, about 550 less than a week ago.
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Timmay
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Kinda. It’s a lot of “you pushed me, now I’m going to push you”. Again, not exactly the sword to fall on, but I do have some empathy even though I don’t agree with it.
Disstevefan1
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We are not talking about measles or tuberculosis, but you know that already. I truly hope you never need to, but be sure to first ask the COVID vaccination status of a first responder if you need their help. Stay safe.
lazyboy97o
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Communicable diseases are communicable. You don’t want comparisons to other diseases, including ones with mandatory vaccines, because you know it would be a stupid position to take.
Heppenheimer
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It would be even better if nobody needed to ask the vaccination status, because we would know with confidence that full vaccination was required for the job. Like every other vaccine-preventable disease that medical personnel and first responders are already required to have protection against.
LittleBuford
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Does anyone know if the vaccine mandates for these other diseases were controversial when they were first introduced?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
We better hope we can eventually beat this thing, sooner rather than later. Because long term, getting the entire population to do a booster year after year isn’t going to be manageable. Short term, I’m okay with most of the state and local mandates in order to help eradicate the virus. But long term I can’t see how there can be a vaccine requirement as it doesn’t seem to be a one and done or two and done shot. Maybe it can be like that eventually??
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