Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Heelz2315]

"The number of COVID-19 patients occupying Florida’s hospital beds and intensive care unit beds continued to slide the last two days, according to U.S. Health & Human Services data.

Patient counts posted to the HHS website Saturday said 261 hospitals reported 14,149 COVID-19 patients, a drop of 428, and an average of 54.2 patients per facility. Those patients occupied 23.7% of the total inpatient hospital beds.

Sunday morning’s update said 258 hospitals reported 13,928 patients, 221 fewer than the previous say, and an average of 54.0 patients per facility. Their percentage of total beds rose slightly, to 24.2%.

As for the intensive care units, the gross number of COVID-19 patients in ICUs dropped 24 to 3,246 in Saturday’s posted count and another 32 to 3,214 in Sunday’s count. Saturday’s number was 51.7% of the ICU beds in the 261 facilities reporting and Sunday’s number was 48.8% of the ICU beds in the 258 facilities reporting."

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254022648.html

Sounds like things are improving. Wonder where they’ll be say Halloween?

 

[GoofGoof]

Sounds like things are improving. Wonder where they’ll be say Halloween?

What we need to see now in FL is a sustained decline in cases. We can’t afford to see a plateau at the case levels we are currently at. Hopefully cases continue to decline and get back under 10K a day on average within a few weeks. Hospitalizations and deaths follow cases and are on a lag so they should decline too if that happens. If we cut the case numbers in half that should stabilize the hospitals.

 

[The Mrs]

I don’t disagree with this. If for no other reason than you will not be successful in changing someone’s mind and getting them to agree with you if you don’t understand why they think the way they do.

My post was to suggest that it is possibly harmful to automatically close our minds to any idea coming from someone who does not 100% share our own exact position. My point was that our divisions continue to grow, and if everyone tried to be just a little less close minded maybe that could be improved upon. That said, it doesn't mean I think everyone has something valid to say.

 

[The Mrs]

This is why I actively seek out the latest antivaxx talking points. I need to be able to counter them when they present in my job.

I need to be able to counter them simply to get through a phone call from some of my family.

 

[GoofGoof]

My post was to suggest that it is possibly harmful to automatically close our minds to any idea coming from someone who does not 100% share our own exact position. My point was that our divisions continue to grow, and if everyone tried to be just a little less close minded maybe that could be improved upon. That said, it doesn't mean I think everyone has something valid to say.

I agree. One of the most difficult parts of the debate on vaccinations for me has been to try to understand why anyone wouldn’t want the vaccine. I’ve spent a lot of time trying to listen and understand the point of view of others on that specific topic. If we actually had 90%+ vaccinated Covid really could be mostly eliminated (probably even with delta). That’s what I want to see but I am powerless to make it happen. All we can do is continue to attempt to educate people and more importantly dispute misinformation because you never know what will change someone’s mind. I don’t realistically expect there are going to be people who read something I post here and change their minds based solely on that, but I have an uncle I’m working on and maybe he will.

 

[SammyMF]

I'm at DHS right now. Crowd levels seem to be on par from when I was here over 4th of July. Far more masks, though, and not just inside. A good bit of people are wearing them outside, and some parents seem to have their kids wearing them at all times, even moreso than when I was here in May and they were optional outside.

Excuse me for being dense, but, DHS? Only thing that immediately came to mind was the Department of Homeland Security.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Excuse me for being dense, but, DHS? Only thing that immediately came to mind was the Department of Homeland Security.

Disney’s Hollywood Studios.

 

[SammyMF]

Disney’s Hollywood Studios.

Duh!

Thanks.

 

[JoeCamel]

Duh!

Thanks.

I always see it as homeland if that helps

 

[Lilofan]

I always see it as homeland if that helps

Any annual pass holder that can visit the parks anytime they want even just to see the fireworks or experience Epcot candlelight ( one of my favs ) then go home is a great homeland to come back to again and again and again.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Excuse me for being dense, but, DHS? Only thing that immediately came to mind was the Department of Homeland Security.

If it makes you feel better, DHS was how we abbreviated my high school, and I was in high school when I joined, so I was super confused.

 

[The Mrs]

If it makes you feel better, DHS was how we abbreviated my high school, and I was in high school when I joined, so I was super confused.

Dundalk?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Excuse me for being dense, but, DHS? Only thing that immediately came to mind was the Department of Homeland Security.

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Big List of Forum Abbreviations

20k – 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, MK, defunct 7DMT – Seven Dwarfs Mine Train AA – American Adventure AA – Audio Animatronics ABD – Adventures By Disney (world-wide tourist experiences) AC – Adventurer's Club (defunct) at Pleasure Island (defunct) at Disney Springs AC – Avenger's Campus...

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[StarWarsGirl]

Dundalk?

Lol, thank the Lord no.

 

[Figgy1]

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20k – 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, MK, defunct 7DMT – Seven Dwarfs Mine Train AA – American Adventure AA – Audio Animatronics ABD – Adventures By Disney (world-wide tourist experiences) AC – Adventurer's Club (defunct) at Pleasure Island (defunct) at Disney Springs AC – Avenger's Campus...

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That works for the most part except for some of us who still sometimes use MGM for DHS and DTD for DS

 

[FeelsSoGoodToBeBad]

That works for the most part except for some of us who still sometimes use MGM for DHS and DTD for DS

I still find myself interchanging those sometimes, though I try to catch it when I do. (And I still prefer Downtown Disney, tyvm.)

 

[BrianLo]

For interest sake, since Ontario has also gone to vaccine mandates. The College of Physician and Surgeons of Ontario has clarified the list of Medical Exemptions to the vaccines. Since they are being inundated with improper requests and unlike other provinces there is some more leniency for medical exemptions.

They are:
1) A previous anaphylactoid reaction to the COVID-19 vaccine or its components
2) Myocarditis from a previous dose of mRNA vaccine.

And that's it.

Which pretty much means the most likely to be exempted are also ironically partially vaccinated.

 

[Heppenheimer]

For interest sake, since Ontario has also gone to vaccine mandates. The College of Physician and Surgeons of Ontario has clarified the list of Medical Exemptions to the vaccines. Since they are being inundated with improper requests and unlike other provinces there is some more leniency for medical exemptions.

They are:
1) A previous anaphylactoid reaction to the COVID-19 vaccine or its components
2) Myocarditis from a previous dose of mRNA vaccine.

And that's it.

Which pretty much means the most likely to be exempted are also ironically partially vaccinated.

Our office has started to receive requests for exemptions. None granted yet.

 

[matt9112]

My heart aches for the travel industry, generally, as a whole (though airlines malfeasance is another story). That said, I hope this is so damned painful to Disney that they have to dial back on all the nonsense of the last few years. I missed the days of post-9/11 and the Great Recession, but understand the parks were empty and they were running promotions galore to get people back.

"But if you care about the parks you should want them to succeed - when times are bad the park development suffers." Oh yeah? They've already scuttled half of their EPCOT plans and the only things being built are what was already past a point of no return. How will a further downturn make current development any worse?

Airline demand is almost as high as it was pre pandemic. Considering theres no international travel thats huge. China was actually exceeded pre pandemic levels. In sure this is all pulling back a little BUT the big difference is revenue all this demand is leisure travel not business travel.
I guess airlines are probably missing those corporate credit cards.

 

[matt9112]

All correct and the weather is warm and the drinks are cold - enjoy FL for all you visitors to the Sunshine State.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.