Timmay
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I agree. From the statement released, it looks like the hospital system was getting some panicked inquiries.
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Heppenheimer
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One victory at a time.
Tony the Tigger
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I and a couple others finally got a guy who works at a business near mine to get it. He was never anti-vax, just kept making excuses, including being afraid of what one of his bosses would say (more on that in a moment.) He is one of these guys who is always in a jam (often of his own making.) “The king of bad decisions.” He needed a push. His second shot is in about 2 weeks.
The boss is the tough nut to crack. She and her husband own the business. He and both sides of their entire family are vaccinated. She, not for political reasons, refuses. Furthermore, she is insisting their 5 year old son will not get it when eligible. They are fighting over it.
Three of what I’d primarily call “her customers” (they frequent the business typically when she is there) have gotten sick in the last 2 weeks (and two were vaccinated, with no symptoms.)
And now, the husband’s grandmother disinvited her from an upcoming family gathering for the grandmother’s safety. The poor guy is getting no peace.
I had taken it for granted that my spouse agreed with me and got the shot. I wonder how many are in “split households.”
The boss is the tough nut to crack. She and her husband own the business. He and both sides of their entire family are vaccinated. She, not for political reasons, refuses. Furthermore, she is insisting their 5 year old son will not get it when eligible. They are fighting over it.
Three of what I’d primarily call “her customers” (they frequent the business typically when she is there) have gotten sick in the last 2 weeks (and two were vaccinated, with no symptoms.)
And now, the husband’s grandmother disinvited her from an upcoming family gathering for the grandmother’s safety. The poor guy is getting no peace.
I had taken it for granted that my spouse agreed with me and got the shot. I wonder how many are in “split households.”
correcaminos
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Thank you! I could not find any info on the crossover portion. Must not have looked right to see it reported (missed googling crossover). I assume his card has no dates then?
Florida didn’t report any numbers to the CDC yesterday, well now have to wait until Tuesday for the next update. Also, because of the holiday 7 day averages are likely to be off for a week as well.
what was the last #? I missed it. Had it come down?
GoofGoof
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Interesting polling on vaccine hesitancy:
www.yahoo.com
Down to 17% who say they definitely or probably won’t get vaccinated. 83% may still not be enough but I would love to see us hit 83% of eligible people actually fully vaccinated. Remember when all the talk was about the vaccines being under EUA and how people didn’t want to take an experimental vaccine, well now that Pfizer has FDA approval 82% of the unvaccinated say it makes no difference to them. So total BS for all those months…on to the next excuse. It amazes me that some people still think that the hesitancy has nothing to do with politics. Interesting stats on mask and vaccine mandates:
The majority of those polled support both mask and vaccine mandates in various school and employment situations. That’s our best way to reduce the 17% who refuse to get vaccinated. If we could shave 7% off of that number and get all kids approved we could reach 90%+ vaccinated which would be close to the level of MMR and could mean a real end to the emergency in this country.
Vaccine hesitancy eases in teeth of the delta surge: POLL
Vaccine hesitancy has subsided in the face of the delta surge, with the share of Americans who are disinclined to get a coronavirus shot now just half what it was last January. Support for mask mandates is broad and President Joe Biden's approval for handling the pandemic has dropped sharply...
Down to 17% who say they definitely or probably won’t get vaccinated. 83% may still not be enough but I would love to see us hit 83% of eligible people actually fully vaccinated. Remember when all the talk was about the vaccines being under EUA and how people didn’t want to take an experimental vaccine, well now that Pfizer has FDA approval 82% of the unvaccinated say it makes no difference to them. So total BS for all those months…on to the next excuse. It amazes me that some people still think that the hesitancy has nothing to do with politics. Interesting stats on mask and vaccine mandates:
The majority of those polled support both mask and vaccine mandates in various school and employment situations. That’s our best way to reduce the 17% who refuse to get vaccinated. If we could shave 7% off of that number and get all kids approved we could reach 90%+ vaccinated which would be close to the level of MMR and could mean a real end to the emergency in this country.
I never believed a bunch of people would magically change their minds and rush out to get vaccinated when the vaccines got full approval. But I did think more employers and venues would start requiring vaccines, which is exactly what is happening right now.Interesting polling on vaccine hesitancy:
Vaccine hesitancy eases in teeth of the delta surge: POLL
Vaccine hesitancy has subsided in the face of the delta surge, with the share of Americans who are disinclined to get a coronavirus shot now just half what it was last January. Support for mask mandates is broad and President Joe Biden's approval for handling the pandemic has dropped sharply...
Down to 17% who say they definitely or probably won’t get vaccinated. 83% may still not be enough but I would love to see us hit 83% of eligible people actually fully vaccinated. Remember when all the talk was about the vaccines being under EUA and how people didn’t want to take an experimental vaccine, well now that Pfizer has FDA approval 82% of the unvaccinated say it makes no difference to them. So total BS for all those months…on to the next excuse. It amazes me that some people still think that the hesitancy has nothing to do with politics. Interesting stats on mask and vaccine mandates:
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The majority of those polled support both mask and vaccine mandates in various school and employment situations. That’s our best way to reduce the 17% who refuse to get vaccinated. If we could shave 7% off of that number and get all kids approved we could reach 90%+ vaccinated which would be close to the level of MMR and could mean a real end to the emergency in this country.
GoofGoof
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Agreed. The impact is bigger on companies looking to mandate. I saw a recent poll from a large number of corporations that the majority plan to mandate the vaccine. I think it was something like 59%. I also think if/when the major brand based companies mandate it that will lead to many followers. Amazon is one of the big ones to watch. Walmart and McDonalds have both mandated vaccines for some of their workforce but Amazon hasn’t decided either way. Could be an easy way to boost National vaccine numbers. I think now that the Federal unemployment benefits are rolling off and there should in theory be more workers available so those companies will be less hesitant to mandate vaccines for fear of losing workers. We shall see.
StarWarsGirl
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With my grandma, I just worked very slowly on her. I talked about the delta variant and how scary it was, and I talked about my own experience with the vaccine (though I played down the side effects; I was pretty miserable after my first shot), and I encouraged her to speak to her doctor about her concerns since she really trusts her doctor. I think she had other people in her life who were pushing harder on her, but she's a stubborn lady and you can't tell her what to do. You have to give her the info, let her think about it, and have her make a decision.
I had a few more cards left in my back pocket that I was going to play if she didn't get vaccinated. We're going to SC in December, and there's an indoor pool with water aerobics classes that she loves going to. Well, last year, my dad said she couldn't go there. Since he was paying for the room, she listened even though she wasn't happy about it. I was going to tell her that the same thing would happen this year if she didn't get the shot, especially since my aunt is coming with us and she has a medical exemption, so we can't get her sick.
Chi84
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I agree with this provided the discourse is well-reasoned and respectful. Telling people to call the police on parents who are complying with mask mandates is neither of those. That’s exploitation pure and simple.
StarWarsGirl
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I'm at DHS right now. Crowd levels seem to be on par from when I was here over 4th of July. Far more masks, though, and not just inside. A good bit of people are wearing them outside, and some parents seem to have their kids wearing them at all times, even moreso than when I was here in May and they were optional outside.
I wasn't suggesting that we need to participate. I was merely suggesting that it's important to know what's being said, simply to be informed. Sort of a version of keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Except that you also have to sometimes truly listen to what they're saying because maybe there is a kernel of truth there and because if you always dismiss what you perceive as the other "side" you run the risk of blindly following your own "side", and blindness is never a good thing.
But directly to your point, no, I don't think anyone should call the police in this case. I was not suggesting that in any way.
"The number of COVID-19 patients occupying Florida’s hospital beds and intensive care unit beds continued to slide the last two days, according to U.S. Health & Human Services data.
Patient counts posted to the HHS website Saturday said 261 hospitals reported 14,149 COVID-19 patients, a drop of 428, and an average of 54.2 patients per facility. Those patients occupied 23.7% of the total inpatient hospital beds.
Sunday morning’s update said 258 hospitals reported 13,928 patients, 221 fewer than the previous say, and an average of 54.0 patients per facility. Their percentage of total beds rose slightly, to 24.2%.
As for the intensive care units, the gross number of COVID-19 patients in ICUs dropped 24 to 3,246 in Saturday’s posted count and another 32 to 3,214 in Sunday’s count. Saturday’s number was 51.7% of the ICU beds in the 261 facilities reporting and Sunday’s number was 48.8% of the ICU beds in the 258 facilities reporting."
Patient counts posted to the HHS website Saturday said 261 hospitals reported 14,149 COVID-19 patients, a drop of 428, and an average of 54.2 patients per facility. Those patients occupied 23.7% of the total inpatient hospital beds.
Sunday morning’s update said 258 hospitals reported 13,928 patients, 221 fewer than the previous say, and an average of 54.0 patients per facility. Their percentage of total beds rose slightly, to 24.2%.
As for the intensive care units, the gross number of COVID-19 patients in ICUs dropped 24 to 3,246 in Saturday’s posted count and another 32 to 3,214 in Sunday’s count. Saturday’s number was 51.7% of the ICU beds in the 261 facilities reporting and Sunday’s number was 48.8% of the ICU beds in the 258 facilities reporting."
GoofGoof
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I don’t disagree with this. If for no other reason than you will not be successful in changing someone’s mind and getting them to agree with you if you don’t understand why they think the way they do.
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Heppenheimer
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This is why I actively seek out the latest antivaxx talking points. I need to be able to counter them when they present in my job.
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