Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Angel Ariel]

Wow. This frightens me so much if my neighborhood were to go to something like that, especially if the schools stay closed longer which is looking more and more likely, and sports being canceled longer.
I worry about the effects on children that this will have. Especially kids who are very active and involved in a lot of extracurriculars and do not have other siblings close in age at home. They need interaction with other children. They are already upset over this absolute upheaval of their lives, and without that face-to-face human interaction I just worry so much about kids sinking in some kind of depression.

As of now, I would say the people who are letting their kids around other children are being very responsible. Like I said not large groups playing basketball or on trampolines or playing sports or tag, just pretty much limited to next-door neighbors in each others yards under strict rules, And then yesterday were 4 to 5 kids rode bikes and scooters for a little while. I know that did so much good for them even though it wasn’t their normal congregating together, The bike ride alone lifted my kid’s spirit so much, and I talked to a couple of other parents who did the same for theirs. I don’t know how many more people will decide to be afraid of that though.

I understand the concern re: emotional state. This is why I’m making sure we get outside to do physical activity together every day. As part of our daily routine in the morning we update her magnetic calendar, which has a place for feelings. A few months ago I printed off her augmentative device symbols for feelings and made them into magnets, so she had a wide range of emotions to use here. I use that now to check in with her daily. She’s had lots of big emotions - being afraid (or getting sick), sad, disappointed, confused, etc - checking in with her like this gives me an opportunity to answer questions I wouldn’t otherwise know she had and reassure her as I can. She is a pretty resilient kid (she hasn’t had much of a choice there), and I feel we are setting a good foundation to keep her emotionally healthy no matter how long this goes.

(for those that don’t know, as we’ve talked about it before in the political forum, my daughter has apraxia of speech and uses an augmentative communication device to speak).

 

[durangojim]

So, I dunno about anyone else, but I don't see this whole thing being over and back to normal by the end of the month. I'm curious why The Mouse hasn't pushed the open date out much further. Even if all cases were to stop tomorrow, there would still be issues with adequate staffing at this point... not to mention guest attendance. Are they planning on some kind of super expensive reserved tour experience only for groups less than 10 to start on April 1?

I’m thinking at least 6 weeks.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Wow. This frightens me so much if my neighborhood were to go to something like that, especially if the schools stay closed longer which is looking more and more likely, and sports being canceled longer.
I worry about the effects on children that this will have. Especially kids who are very active and involved in a lot of extracurriculars and do not have other siblings close in age at home. They need interaction with other children. They are already upset over this absolute upheaval of their lives, and without that face-to-face human interaction I just worry so much about kids sinking in some kind of depression.

As of now, I would say the people who are letting their kids around other children are being very responsible. Like I said not large groups playing basketball or on trampolines or playing sports or tag, just pretty much limited to next-door neighbors in each others yards under strict rules, And then yesterday were 4 to 5 kids rode bikes and scooters for a little while. I know that did so much good for them even though it wasn’t their normal congregating together, The bike ride alone lifted my kid’s spirit so much, and I talked to a couple of other parents who did the same for theirs. I don’t know how many more people will decide to be afraid of that though.

It's different and it sucks, but I don't think it's frightening. What's frightening is being hospitalized and possibly having permanent lung damage. Or, you know, dying. Those are unlikely outcomes, but they're not zero. And those interactions are also impacting the health of others. Kids aren't equipped to weigh the risks and make those decisions. I'd say parents allowing or encouraging those interactions aren't being very responsible.

 

[21stamps]

I’m asking anyone who either doesn’t have school aged children, or has children who are happy about not going to school, or doesn’t have children who play travel sports- who tried out for their spring teams last summer & trained all winter, or has children with siblings at home, or is home all day with their kids during this time.. Please consider the families who aren’t the same as yours.. and before barking at them or expressing judgement on any form of social media.. just remember that everyone’s situation is not the same, we’re all just trying to deal with this the best that we can under the circumstances.

 

[WondersOfLife]

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Dont be surprised to see Planet/Earl of Sandwich/Chicken Guy to do the same, except probably never open up.

That'll be really sad... Volcano Cake at AK was ALWAYS a tradition for me.

 

[durangojim]

Here is what I don’t understand. This virus for the majority of people will be mild. You can decrease your risk of contracting it by following some very basic instructions or rules. If you feel that you don’t need to follow those rules, what are you gaining other than a sense of superiority?
If someone held a gun up to your head that had a 1 in thirty chance of having a bullet in it would you pull the trigger? What about 1 in 100? If you’re over 65 how about 1 in 10? I just don’t understand or comprehend the rationale of people who think this is overblown or that they’re above it all. What exactly do they gain?

 

[ifan]

It’s so frustrating because if we had enough tests, these situations could provide the exact type of data that we need, as far as determine how contagious it is and at what point.
At least she got tested though. Your wife is the first non-celebrity, non-politician, non-healthcare worker who I’ve heard has had a test.. that’s promising at least.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been tested - and they can't all be politicians, healthcare workers, and celebrities

This morning they stated at least 195,000 tests have already run and that didn't include 15,000 labs (they will be getting daily update on those tests within the next week.) We will probably have tested over 1,000,000 within a week.

I personally know a handful who have had tests, although they were healthcare workers.

At this point I'm just assuming everyone in Seattle and New York is infected!!!

 

[DCBaker]

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been tested - and they can't all be politicians, healthcare workers, and celebrities

Also -

 

[easyrowrdw]

I'd like to request that anyone who hasn't been working hard all semester and needing a break or been planning their Spring Break trip for months or been saving since last summer or been taking their first trip to the beach in years... please consider the college kids that aren't the same as yours. Just remember that everyone’s situation is not the same, we’re all just trying to do our best in these trying times.

 

[celluloid]

Here is what I don’t understand. This virus for the majority of people will be mild. You can decrease your risk of contracting it by following some very basic instructions or rules. If you feel that you don’t need to follow those rules, what are you gaining other than a sense of superiority?
If someone held a gun up to your head that had a 1 in thirty chance of having a bullet in it would you pull the trigger? What about 1 in 100? If you’re over 65 how about 1 in 10? I just don’t understand or comprehend the rationale of people who think this is overblown or that they’re above it all. What exactly do they gain?

Imagine the furstration of being a public educator, or as you know, seeing people smoke and drink and not take care of themselves or refuse to see how their actions harm others. Natural man finds it easy to be selfish.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been tested - and they can't all be politicians

You'd be surprised. We all are - in our own way.

 

[Incomudro]

Just like retirement - every day's a Saturday.

I just retired this past Tuesday.

 

[21stamps]

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been tested - and they can't all be politicians, healthcare workers, and celebrities

This morning they stated at least 195,000 tests have already run and that didn't include 15,000 labs (they will be getting daily update on those tests within the next week.) We will probably have tested over 1,000,000 within a week.

I personally know a handful who have had tests, although they were healthcare workers.

At this point I'm just assuming everyone in Seattle and New York is infected!!!

You should look up the testing rules for Ohio and several other states. There aren’t enough tests... Our governor and health expert are saying this.

 

[VaderTron]

Seems arbitrary reporting on its own or without further context. Not your fault, thanks for sharing the report.
The average age of Floridians is 42 and they may even be reporting cases from young people visiting outside of the state.

Oh you mean the beach bum toilet lickers?

 

[celluloid]

Oh you mean the beach bum toilet lickers?

HAHAHA
They probably go back to my point about alcholism and people that ened to socially distance themselves from bottles...

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Here is what I don’t understand. This virus for the majority of people will be mild. You can decrease your risk of contracting it by following some very basic instructions or rules. If you feel that you don’t need to follow those rules, what are you gaining other than a sense of superiority?
If someone held a gun up to your head that had a 1 in thirty chance of having a bullet in it would you pull the trigger? What about 1 in 100? If you’re over 65 how about 1 in 10? I just don’t understand or comprehend the rationale of people who think this is overblown or that they’re above it all. What exactly do they gain?

I think the argument in general has been, we all take chances every day.

Letting your kids play a contact sport or ride a bike is taking a chance. They are much more likely to get injured playing a sport than sitting at home watching tv. And yet we live lives that have certain risks.

This is brand new territory for all of us... my parents, last I talked to them, are still planning on going to church tomorrow. It’s a super small church that will have even fewer people there. They have less risk there than the grocery store imho.

I’ve been stopping in my local coffee shop to support them... but today was a little odd. Some customers were “hanging out” in the store even though they are supposed to be only grab and go. They weren’t sitting cause they took the chairs out and it was like 5 or 6 max... but it still felt weird to me. The normal weekday manager wasn’t there and she seems to be taking things way more serious so that made me take note.

All that to say... we are all learning how to do this. Maybe I’ll make coffee at home more. If I had a kid... it would be hard not to let them see any friends for 6 weeks or whatever this will be. But thankfully I don’t have to make those decisions (I’m sure I’d make the wrong one either way! Ha).

 

[ImperfectPixie]

You’re not getting it. This whole thing is difficult. I realize that you don’t have kids at home, and that those who do have differing opinions on this, and that all kids are going to have differing levels of social interactions and extracurriculars prior to this social distancing .. but everyone needs to understand that so many kids are feeling the brunt of this. It is difficult, so difficult, for so many. These kids who have been training for months for their spring sports, now have their seasons interrupted and tournaments cancelled without even getting to play their first game. The emotional impact of that, combined with seclusion.. it’s something that you can talk about, but you can’t know what it feels like..I don’t even know what it feels like, I can just imagine..I can just watch my child feel it.
2 next door neighbor kids, playing outside with each other, not tackling and touching, are not going to be posing a great risk to society. Each parent needs to make their own judgement call on if they will allow it or not.

I'm sorry. I can't be nice anymore.

YOU ARE WRONG. END OF STORY. You've been backtracking and changing your story and moving the goalposts throughout this entire thread. MULTIPLE PEOPLE have shown you - with facts and advice from doctors and medical experts why there is a fundamental flaw in your logic.

SIX FEET. That is the MINIMUM safe distance. Children 1) aren't capable of accurately estimating that distance, and 2) forget about safety stuff under the best conditions, let alone when something they can't see or understand is the threat.

I ABSOLUTELY GET IT. My sons have autism. Socializing is difficult for them, but they do have a few close friends that they miss terribly. Going back to school with expectations from teachers is going to be EXTRAORDINARILY difficult for them. It's going to take time to gain back the social and educational ground we're losing because of this pandemic, so please don't tell me I don't understand. My sister is recently divorced and has a daughter who is VERY active in sports and extra-curriculars - and they're staying away from everyone - no play dates.

PEOPLE MAKING POOR CHOICES ARE WHY WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP EVERYTHING CLOSED FOR MORE THAN 3 WEEKS.

You've convinced yourself that you're safe because there aren't many confirmed cases in Ohio and because you aren't being forced to self-quarantine by the state...GUESS AGAIN. We thought the same until the beginning of last week. Now there are cases popping up ALL over the place around us. We've since begun treating everyone we see as if they're carrying COVID-19 and just don't know it yet. My mother wanted to stop by yesterday to drop off a birthday card for me, and I asked her not to - because she and my husband are both at high-risk for severe symptoms.

The following is from a group of 50 Boston doctors regarding how this virus spreads... (it's far too long of a post to screenshot, but this is copied directly from their plea for people to take this seriously)

Suppose you catch the virus. You will give it to 3 other people, and they will each give it to three others, and so forth. Here is how the math works, where you, the “index case,” are the first line:
1
3
9
27
81
243
729
2,187
6,561
19,683
59,046
177,147
531,441
1,594,323
4,782,969
14,348,907
So, in just 15 steps of transmission, the virus has gone from just one index case to 14.3 million other people.

This isn't about you. It's about ALL OF US. YOUR choices will affect those you come in contact with along with everyone they come into contact with, etc. etc. So please, either re-think your decision-making process, or stop talking about your children and what you're allowing them to do, because frankly, it's irresponsible and you shouldn't be encouraging others to behave in the same way.

 

[GoofGoof]

Let's hope it is all worth it when we look back....

Marriott to Furlough Thousands of Corporate Jobs
Coronavirus impact worse than post-9/11 attacks, financial crisis combined, CEO says

What is all worth it? It’s a virus nobody chose this. Get a grip. You really think if Marriott kept all their hotels open and states allowed it they wouldn’t have still had to furlough many if not all workers?

 

[21stamps]

I just retired this past Tuesday.

Congratulations!

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Let's hope it is all worth it when we look back....

Marriott to Furlough Thousands of Corporate Jobs
Coronavirus impact worse than post-9/11 attacks, financial crisis combined, CEO says

That's just the beginning, sadly. NCL furloughed half of their call center. SeaDream laid off their entire sales force. The travel industry is hurting bad.

If I can share something......many, many, many, of your (mine, yours, everybody's) local travel agencies are family run businesses. Mom, Dad, the kids....are all employed by that. When that shuts. It's a catastrophe. The entire family relies on that to feed their family. And they are going down ----- quick.