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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Yes. We dropped masks for vaccinated one random day on a Thursday in May so how is that any different? It’s a dial that can and should be ramped up or down depending on the situation. This is just CDC guidance, not a mandate. Businesses will have to decide. My gut says if they bring masks back indoors they won’t relax that again until they are certain the trend is down so it won’t be the day you go from orange to yellow but maybe a few weeks later to ensure it’s continuing downward.
We will see what happens. I believe WDW will end up brining masks back indoors as well. That is their choice.

On a whole though, I still can't see these updated CDC guidelines around masks making a bit of difference to change the path we are on, unless a ton of businesses require masks IN CONJUCTION with other significant mitigation efforts such as capacity limits, etc. And remember where spread was mostly occurring in the winter? In private homes and settings. Have we determined if it is any different this time?
 
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Chomama

Well-Known Member
I just checked and my area is also yellow even though we have 2 deaths a day down from 350.

If yellow areas also have to mask up then you all can call me whatever names you want, but the CDC has lost their minds.

We did EVERYTHING we where told to do.

agree. I’m exhausted. We have done everything we can and we are being punished by the people that aren’t vaccinated. It’s their turn, in my mind. Let us live our lives and the unvaccinated adults can miss out. Require vaccine proof for large venues, hospitals, schools, planes, etc. They can deal with it
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
We don’t know that do we? Vacinated can still catch and spread it I thought.

This was in the WaPo article on the possible CDC guidance update -

"Top health officials, who were debating the new masking guidance on Monday afternoon, said the game-changer was new data showing that vaccinated individuals infected with the delta variant carry the same viral load as unvaccinated individuals who are infected, according to three people familiar with the data. Vaccinated people are unlikely to become severely ill, but the new data raises questions about how easily they can transmit the disease, said the three individuals. Such transmission was not believed to happen in any significant way with earlier variants."

 

Kevin_W

Well-Known Member
I read the thread and saw this had not been answered. Unless something has changed even more recently than I know, it’s not the sandwich they screwed up but the portion size and pricing.

Everyone basically went to Cafe Orleans ordered a $21 sandwich, which came with 2 pieces, and a $5 basket of frites. And split it between 2 people.

When Disneyland reopened, the menu now says you get 1 piece of sandwich with a side of frites. No longer sharable. No longer can order a basket of frites. So your meal for two went from $26ish to $42. And less frites than you had before. If you were the rare person who could eat the pre-pandemic 2 piece sandwich, you saw your sandwich portion get cut in half and replaced with a small portion of potatoes but the price stayed the same.

Blue Bayou still has the full size portion. But they never had the frites.

Thanks for the explanation. When we visited DL 6-7 years ago that is exactly what we did (and splitting the fires + half a sandwich was still too much food!). $21 for the sandwich was already pretty crazy. I can see why people would be unhappy with $21 for half a sandwich and some fries.
 

Mark52479

Well-Known Member
Well the concern definitely is the back and forth. People can only take so much of that.

So they should just stick with it for a while and not do the back and forth.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
This was in the WaPo article on the possible CDC guidance update -

"Top health officials, who were debating the new masking guidance on Monday afternoon, said the game-changer was new data showing that vaccinated individuals infected with the delta variant carry the same viral load as unvaccinated individuals who are infected, according to three people familiar with the data. Vaccinated people are unlikely to become severely ill, but the new data raises questions about how easily they can transmit the disease, said the three individuals. Such transmission was not believed to happen in any significant way with earlier variants."

All the more reason for unvaccinated people to get vaccinated. Now they have to worry about catching COVID from absolutely everyone, not just the others who are unvaccinated. As long as the vaccinated are not getting seriously ill, we can help them along to herd immunity the hard way.
 

maui2k7

Active Member
We are going to Universal on Aug 4-7 & WDW Aug 7-12. If they bring back masks indoors, we may end up moving our vacation out several months. I do not want to wear a mask indoors - especially at WDW. That would not make for a magical vacation - especially for the price you pay. Yes, I am vaccinated.
 

DisneyFan32

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
This was in the WaPo article on the possible CDC guidance update -

"Top health officials, who were debating the new masking guidance on Monday afternoon, said the game-changer was new data showing that vaccinated individuals infected with the delta variant carry the same viral load as unvaccinated individuals who are infected, according to three people familiar with the data. Vaccinated people are unlikely to become severely ill, but the new data raises questions about how easily they can transmit the disease, said the three individuals. Such transmission was not believed to happen in any significant way with earlier variants."

is NJ and NY will not change back indoor masks soon?
 

TrainChasers

Well-Known Member
This was in the WaPo article on the possible CDC guidance update -

"Top health officials, who were debating the new masking guidance on Monday afternoon, said the game-changer was new data showing that vaccinated individuals infected with the delta variant carry the same viral load as unvaccinated individuals who are infected, according to three people familiar with the data. Vaccinated people are unlikely to become severely ill, but the new data raises questions about how easily they can transmit the disease, said the three individuals. Such transmission was not believed to happen in any significant way with earlier variants."

Thanks. That’s very interesting data. If it’s true... it sure seems to me that everyone should be wearing masks indoors / crowded areas.
 

HeartOfTeFiti

Active Member
Can you enroll your kids back in school later in the year?

This spike may not last long and they will be eligible for vaccination soon. ( Hopefully )

Unless you mean virtual school for yourself.

Sorry I’m a bit confused.
Yes, we can reevaluate each semester. You can't switch mid-semester. Our county is making virtual school a permanent option and it will be a separate school with separate staff and administration housed in their own building. Each student has a choice of going to their home school or being enrolled in the virtual program. There won't be a hybrid option. If you choose virtual the student is no longer enrolled in their home (local, brick and mortar, physical building) school. Parents can choose to send their children back to in person school each semester but there has to be room for them, so it is contingent on class size limits and staffing. You also can't decide to change last minute. There is a deadline for each semester.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
We will see what happens. I believe WDW will end up brining masks back indoors as well. That is their choice.

On a whole though, I still can't see these updated CDC guidelines around masks making a bit of difference to change the path we are on, unless a ton of businesses require masks IN CONJUCTION with other significant mitigation efforts such as capacity limits, etc. And remember where spread was mostly occurring in the winter? In private homes and settings. Have we determined if it is any different this time?
I’m sure they won’t just change recommendations for masks alone. If/when this announcement happens I would expect the guidance to include a recommendation on additional limitations for all activities in high spread areas. Maybe even a recommendation not to travel to those places and/or for unvaccinated people to quarantine upon return, they may recommend people avoid having private gatherings mixing vaccinated and unvaccinated people again. We here only focus on masks because of the impact to WDW. The CDC has broader focus. Indoor masks were the last major mitigation to be relaxed for fully vaccinated people so it makes sense it would be one of first to be reinstated if mitigations are ramped back up. Blame the unvaccinated who are dragging things out.

As far as WDW, who knows what they do? FL and specifically Orange County is definitely a high spread area right now so if this new CDC guidance recommends a return to indoor masks for everyone in high spread areas then they will be going against that recommendation if they don’t make the change. Tough call for the Mouse.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
This also being reported for those with kids returning to school soon:

“Washington (CNN) The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is expected to recommend everyone in K-12 schools wear a mask, regardless of their vaccination status, as it updates its masking guidelines on Tuesday, according to an administration health official.”
I’m good with that. My 14 year old who is fully vaccinated won’t like it, but it makes sense, especially below the High School level where some kids aren’t eligible yet.
 

DisneyFan32

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
I’m sure they won’t just change recommendations for masks alone. If/when this announcement happens I would expect the guidance to include a recommendation on additional limitations for all activities in high spread areas. Maybe even a recommendation not to travel to those places and/or for unvaccinated people to quarantine upon return, they may recommend people avoid having private gatherings mixing vaccinated and unvaccinated people again. We here only focus on masks because of the impact to WDW. The CDC has broader focus. Indoor masks were the last major mitigation to be relaxed for fully vaccinated people so it makes sense it would be one of first to be reinstated if mitigations are ramped back up. Blame the unvaccinated who are dragging things out.

As far as WDW, who knows what they do? FL and specifically Orange County is definitely a high spread area right now so if this new CDC guidance recommends a return to indoor masks for everyone in high spread areas then they will be going against that recommendation if they don’t make the change. Tough call for the Mouse.

Not NJ? The state will not returning indoor masks soon?
 

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