The gullible sheep (or should I say stubborn goats) are the people who spit at a modern miracle and choose to not listen to the entire medical establishment and instead trust cable news and Facebook instead. Physicians are averaging 80-90% vaccine uptake, they are literally taking their own medicine. If anyone is going to know it’s them right?
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Chi84
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Well I’m not a jerk, so if government brings back mask mandates, I’ll comply. That’s what members of society do.
I don’t believe that will happen though. I’ve been staying informed and avoiding the sensationalism and overly pessimistic outlooks and I feel pretty safe so far. I’ve always been cautious where COVID is concerned, but not terribly worried given the actual statistics and our lifestyle.
I agree that people have gone back to pre-pandemic mode. I can see government doing more to encourage vaccines, but from what I see masks and other mitigations probably won’t return. We’ll have to do our best to live with COVID.
So adding to the problem already here somehow makes sense?
DisneyCane
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It's been a few weeks. I was running behind. I had to wait for him to say something that contradicted himself.
You have to look at the sample sizes.It’s how they work when I’m concerned about vaccine side effects but not the other way around. Ironic
34,380,019 cases, 608,403 deaths.
6,218,406 cases age 18-29, 2,732 deaths. Plus at least 1 double lung transplant.
163,025,726 fully vaccinated, 3 deaths from side effects.
1.7696, 0.0439, 0.0000018
So sure we can call the second two both “zero”, but the first one is 24 thousand times bigger.
That’s why the “but the vaccine risk” is discounted and the “young people are fine” is not. The lung one, assuming it’s the only one, is an exaggeration, it’s a risk but super low, more likely to just die.
This is also why there is so much vaccine safety testing. They know the vaccine sample size will be enormous. Large enough that even small things would impact an absolute number if there was an issue.
At even that very low rate, for the 2,732 people in that group, the impact was dramatic. Better to vaccinate and avoid even that small chance, since the impact is so severe.
I will comply also, however I think If mandates return they will be around for a long time.
My wife is suggesting maybe we move south to somewhere that’s not as irrational.
First time I’ve heard my life long Democratic wife want to “head south”.
DisneyFan32
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ImperfectPixie
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No one here can answer that question. We don't know what those who make the rules are going to do.I'm scared about mask mandate returning for long time, is really gonna happen or not?
TrainsOfDisney
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I think the number 3 is insanely low. when someone dies in a hospital with covid, they don’t say “well they probably would have died anyways, can’t be proven.”
If you’re scared about wearing a mask you need new fears in life.I'm scared about mask mandate returning for long time, is really gonna happen or not?
Who are you to talk. Your scared of a perfectly safe vaccine.
TrainsOfDisney
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I’m concerned of a very real side effect. Rare, yes, but also very real.
Well if less people weren’t putting off vaccines due too irrational fears like yours we wouldn’t need a mask!
DisneyFan32
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As soon FDA approval vaccines by end of August, they will start vaccine mandate for unvaccinated people soon by September.
TrainsOfDisney
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Hasnt Israel gone back to masks as well? They are the most vaccinated country still correct?
AEfx
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I'll definitely give you that.
At least the people who are scared of a vaccine are, well, scared - as unfounded as much/most of that fear may be, statistically.
The people that don't want to wear masks just don't want to be inconvenienced or slightly annoyed. And, apparently, as we are learning, just really like being up close enough to lick total strangers in public. Staying a few feet apart from others impedes on their "freedom".
BaconPancakes
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You know what’s more deadly than getting a rare side effect from the vaccine? Getting Covid. 
Wow here we go.
Now it’s people who don’t want to wear a mask who are the problem.
The masks don’t do anything because the people who refuse to get vaccinated also refuse to mask.
So let’s force the people who are vaccinated to mask up and have a .0392839 percent effect on things!!
Chi84
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Masks create a very real quality of life issue for a whole lot of people. You don’t have to like it, you don’t have to agree with it, you can sit in judgment of those people all you like. That’s completely your call. But saying that making people wear masks is a non-issue is incorrect. Judge away - that’s what the internet does best.
BaconPancakes
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Exactly, the idiots refusing the vaccine are the same ones who refuse masks. Bringing back masks is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. Just start requiring vaccination proof for things like going to WDW. See how fast these nuts line up for it. (Yes I know there’s a law in Fl that says you can’t require proof.)
BaconPancakes
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A quality of life issue from wearing a piece of fabric on your face. Lmao. Probably the most hilarious thing I’ve read here. Try working in health care…
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