Andrew C
You know what's funny?
So Hershey Park just announced.........
Blahh. Making a 2 year old wear a mask is just bad theater. Bump up the age to 10...
So Hershey Park just announced.........
I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure also that MISC has a higher incidence in pediatric COVID than similar sequelae in pediatric influenza, not to mention a likely much higher morbidity.Whoever wrote that article for Politifact isn't very good at math:
"But for children 14 and younger, the spokesperson said, Florida’s COVID-19 mortality rate is 0.009%, far below the 0.01% for flu for that age group."
Do they realize that 0.009 is not "far below" 0.01? .009 is only .001 below .01. In fact, the numbers are so close, you're talking about margin of error.
Fact is, over the pandemic, in children, there have been more Covid deaths than flu deaths. Those are the facts:
COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics
Tabulated data on provisional COVID-19 deaths by age, sex, race and Hispanic origin, and comorbidities. Also includes an index of state-level and county-level mortality data available for download.www.cdc.gov
(287 Covid deaths vs 182 flu deaths).
And just when I thought we were starting to get pass all the nonsense Hershey comes out with this gem.So Hershey Park just announced.........
This was an MLB standard agreed to by all teams. If a team has 85% staff players and coaches, measures could be relaxed. That’s a heck of a lot higher than we’re seeing for the public and we’re already apparently relaxing.It may not have been a wise idea but the NY Yankees admitted the team "relaxed " covid protocols after April 30, then 8 players that were vaccinated with J&J tested positive.
PREACH.There are a significant number of employers who penalize people for calling in sick.
It's supposed to be what matters, but it's been largely forgotten by too many.But contracting COVID when you’re vaccinated is likely a non-issue. We need to stop acting like getting COVID is the worst thing in the world that can happen to someone. We have protection now to mitigate it. While the vaccines are very effective, they’re not full proof. But this far, they’ve been nearly full proof in preventing hospitalization and death. Isn’t that what matters?
*This is where someone will chime in and say “but vaccinated people can still pass along the virus!” And if that is true, they’ll be passing it along to those who have the vaccine. In that case, see my previous point. If they pass it along to an unvaccinated individual, that individual kind of had it coming. We aren’t going to be antisocial creatures forever just to protect those who refuse a vaccine.
I think the CDC guidance will be changed to say masks are not required outdoors. In my opinion, the announcement yesterday was done to emphasize the effectiveness of the vaccines by clearly delineating between vaccinated and unvaccinated. According to the CDC's own data, there's no reason for masks outdoors.And just when I thought we were starting to get pass all the nonsense Hershey comes out with this gem.
I applaud Cedar Fair for not requiring masks on ANYBODY unless you are indoors. That’s the correct way to approach this and they are going to reap the rewards for finally using common sense.
Since when did people start listening to the CDC? Oh, right. When it fit their requirements.I think the CDC guidance will be changed to say masks are not required outdoors. In my opinion, the announcement yesterday was done to emphasize the effectiveness of the vaccines by clearly delineating between vaccinated and unvaccinated. According to the CDC's own data, there's no reason for masks outdoors.
Yep, you are going to see a lot of this.Co-worker's sister at a Target this morning in NY. People weren't wearing masks. Employees told them to put their masks on. Customers said no, citing the CDC. Employees said NY hadn't lifted any restrictions yet. Customers argued.
Color me SURPRISED.
Co-worker's sister at a Target this morning in NY. People weren't wearing masks. Employees told them to put their masks on. Customers said no, citing the CDC. Employees said NY hadn't lifted any restrictions yet. Customers argued.
Color me SURPRISED.
Hold on, what hasn't been a real world response up until now?Yep. That's the real world response to this. It was likely a bad decision to make that announcement (made by an agency that is not as apolitical as people wish it to be), but it's done. Masks are over.
I read the transcript from Biden's announcement yesterday.Co-worker's sister at a Target this morning in NY. People weren't wearing masks. Employees told them to put their masks on. Customers said no, citing the CDC. Employees said NY hadn't lifted any restrictions yet. Customers argued.
Color me SURPRISED.
What? I'm separating wishful thinking from real world response. In a dream world, people respond one way. In the real world, they respond another.Hold on, what hasn't been a real world response up until now?
Ahhhh the American Dream!
Regardless, 287 deaths given the population is minuscule.Whoever wrote that article for Politifact isn't very good at math:
"But for children 14 and younger, the spokesperson said, Florida’s COVID-19 mortality rate is 0.009%, far below the 0.01% for flu for that age group."
Do they realize that 0.009 is not "far below" 0.01? .009 is only .001 below .01. In fact, the numbers are so close, you're talking about margin of error.
It's also very outdated -- a snapshot from early in the pandemic, when kids were being kept home from school, and when testing was just starting to ramp up. We have much better information now.
Fact is, over the pandemic, in children, there have been more Covid deaths than flu deaths. Those are the facts:
COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics
Tabulated data on provisional COVID-19 deaths by age, sex, race and Hispanic origin, and comorbidities. Also includes an index of state-level and county-level mortality data available for download.www.cdc.gov
(287 Covid deaths vs 182 flu deaths).
Is there a reference for this? The same 2 weeks is what I've read, and I got the J&J.And not fully effective until 28 days.
If I thought we were living in a dream world, I never would have started this thread.What? I'm separating wishful thinking from real world response. In a dream world, people respond one way. In the real world, they respond another.
This is why I think with the CDC announcement yesterday it gives the States no choice but to lift their mask mandates.Yep. That's the real world response to this. It was likely a bad decision to make that announcement (made by an agency that is not as apolitical as people wish it to be), but it's done. Masks are over. Party on, boys.
COVID has been prevalent in communities since early in 2020 - so for the last 15 months, at least. Flu is seasonal and spreads about half the year, at most. Agree to call it even?
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