DisneyFan32
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- Yes
Is NJ and NYC will get back to normal and start to lose masks and social distancing by late summer or fall as they will reach herd immunity? @ImperfectPixie
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
- Thread starter Parker in NYC
- Start date
-
- Tags
- coronavirus covid covid-19
- Status
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
No one knows for sure. We're all hoping and working towards that, though.
carolina_yankee
Well-Known Member
I was actually shocked when I noticed that, but I suspect there are major demographic reasons why there is a low-vaccine willingness paired with high infection rates in a blue-ish state.
GimpYancIent
Well-Known Member
It's the uneducated bullies that are ramping up the fear, yeah!, those self appointed, self proclaiming, self anointed, loud people that truly are unable to get the facts right and are seeking control and power through coercion. The fear concept had its day people are smartening up to the tactic. I suggest continuing to make vaccination accessible without appointments and stop making the very rare negative reaction to a vaccination major news. The rare negative reactions to vaccinations have occurred since vaccinations for various diseases were developed yet all of a sudden because of COVID they are a major news story. There are no 100% magic bullets. This whole thing has become surreal.
GimpYancIent
Well-Known Member
You are talking NYC and its suburbs NJ. Keep calm its a tough area.
CosmicRays
Well-Known Member
If there is one lesson I learned over the past year its that I have no idea where to get credible news from anymore.
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
I've got it.
Let's put hackers to good use. Anyone who hasn't been vaccinated yet who is medically able will get slammed with phone calls, texts, and e-mails until they've gotten at least their first shot. We can NAG them into getting vaccinated!
In all seriousness though...we need to make it somehow "painful" to not be vaccinated.
Let's put hackers to good use. Anyone who hasn't been vaccinated yet who is medically able will get slammed with phone calls, texts, and e-mails until they've gotten at least their first shot. We can NAG them into getting vaccinated!
In all seriousness though...we need to make it somehow "painful" to not be vaccinated.
DisneyCane
Well-Known Member
Honestly, the best way is to get raw data and analyze yourself. For stories about what people said, seek out the transcript so that the author of an article can't use selective quoting and taking things out of context.
We live in the "information age." It's not like 1930 when you either needed to read a newspaper article or go through an ordeal (and a long journey) to get a transcript from a records depository.
For most things that articles are written about, you can find the source material in its entirety in a few minutes at most.
CosmicRays
Well-Known Member
As much as the phrase has worn out its welcome, "The new normal" is here to stay in some form or another. I think we will be looking back at 2019 more fondly than we realize.
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
Yep. And a GOOD media outlet will provide links to the source material when it's able to.
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
Does he even think about anything, ever?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
and that’s sad because it really sucked in so many ways
On Disney's return to normalcy --
They announced summer discounts, and they are rather weak. There isn't a whole lot of on-site availability. Demand appears very strong.
Which begs the question, if demand is so strong, why not open more hotels? Half the mod and value hotels are still closed, AKL is still closed.
Clearly, summer won't have the same capacity limits that we see today.
Tom Bricker wrote up the discounts here:
Save Up to 25% Off Disney World Hotels in Summer & Fall 2021!
Walt Disney World has released new hotel discounts through Fall 2021 with room-only deals. This post shares the details of these special offers, analysis as to how much money you’ll save with each, comparisons towww.disneytouristblog.com
In the comments, he reports that it is his understanding that the central Florida labor shortage is really restricting Disney's ability to expand operations. As I've been saying for a while, I expect Disney's "re-opening" is being slowed by decisions and factors that are not directly related to Covid restrictions.
From day one of the shutdown the message from the top down has been that they would return to operations with a priority to profitability. Clearly, this decision was always going to be at a sacrifice to agility in being able to respond to rapidly changing and unpredictable market conditions. And here we are... and everyone is shocked that Disney can’t turn it all back on again with 30 days notice. Slow and steady was always the plan.
Is Disney now hiring part time / casual staff? Have there been any hints about college program or international program ramping back up? You can’t solve a WDW labor problem (and by extension a capacity problem) without relying heavily on those three labor segments.
Joesixtoe
Well-Known Member
Regardless of your political ideals, the trust in government and media are way down. I do wish we all could come together like we did for 911 and fight this. However we must be truly honest with ourselves and how we as a society are much more divided than I've personally ever seen and lack trust in their opposing political governments. So to say well they are just anti-vaxxers and all sorts of other names in my opinion doesn't help. At the place I work at where we have covid patients(although drastically going down thank God), I would say probably half has taken the shot. We work in direct contact, have seen the effects of this virus, yet probably only half got it. Why? Probably cause there are to many questions unanswered.
corsairk09
Well-Known Member
How much do you think it is the fact that you have to get two shots and a minimum of 8 weeks to be considered fully vaccinated? I personally think that is why the J&J thing was so detrimental. I suspect there is a huge portion of the population who would be willing to get the one shot as opposed to the 2 shots + 2 months wait.
Not sure if they are taking applications yet, but there was talk of bringing back the College Program at the end of the year.
They have listed opening for part-time staff but I’ve heard they aren’t getting a whole lot of applicants.
Patina is offering significant cash bonuses as they are having dire trouble filling the staff of the Disney restaurants they operate. (Rumor that the lack of available staff is a big factor in delaying Space 220 from opening)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
so the first part is 100% reasonable...followed by 100% stupid.
never can quite “get over the hump”, eh?
Doesn’t need to...doesn’t play well at rallies
Ok, then, I'm here!
Michigan has had a recent spike, just like NJ, NY, and PA did. Those three states were heading to what Michigan looks like, but, by having a high vaccination rate, were able to bend the curve before it got as bad as Michigan.
As I've posted recently, it seems that when you get to 40% of adults vaccinated, the spike stops growing; and at 50%, it definitively goes down.
Now that Michigan has hit the magical 50% of adults (16+) vaccinated its cases are plummeting, just like for the tristate area.
Michigan...
That 43% of first dose for all residents is equivalent to 53.5% of adults (16+).
CosmicRays
Well-Known Member
Here's to hoping some measure of better humanity can come from everything that has happened.
- Status