Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[GoofGoof]

Excellent news. 4M doses reported today and the 7 day daily average up to 3M doses a day. Climbing towards the rate of 100M+ doses a month. I remember some people saying we could never get to that level. Still more growth to come with the Moderna news today that they can add more doses to each vial boosting their production level even further. We now have 14 states with 1/3 or more of their population with at least 1 dose taken. Really good sign considering the recent studies that showed the vaccines were around 80% effective even after 1 dose. Lots of potential carriers being eliminated.

 

[fgmnt]

Of all the mitigation measures, what is the order that WDW may roll them back? Not which order do you prefer them to be rolled back. Predicting which measure will be rolled back first, and then which one will fall next, will be very interesting to watch. Capacity limits may be bumped up and seemingly argue in favor of loosening the measures.

One prediction is that social distancing will be dropped first. The temp check may be next. Mask may be third on the list. Hand washing has always been suggested but very sporadically followed and is probably unenforceable. Temp checks and masks may decrease some spread. Social distancing (6ft vs 3ft) is already under revision and directly affects their capacity throughput numbers. What people should do is not always what they want to do nor what they actually do.

the first dials to tune will be the end of what I consider to be sanitation theater, if that hasn't already happened (wiping down whole rides every hour or 2) and opening theater entertainment. social distancing in lines might get hairier with 60% capacity, but you can't put more people in the parks right now while limiting total attraction capacity.

 

[danlb_2000]

Not being political at all in my response to you Martin as you are my favorite Disney source not to mention I love your YouTube channel. Your knowledge of all things Disney and the history of Disney is just amazing to me. In the US we do not have a fall back system of where the government will pay us a huge portion of our salary if we are furloughed, so in order to survive we have to work. That is why Desantis opened Florida up. If the lockdowns were working, then California would not have been in the mess that they were in. California was on a very strict lockdown policy and their numbers were the same as if not worse than Florida's. In an ideal world, we would all love to stay home and get paid until this was over but unfortunately that is not reality for us over here in the states. Not sure how it works in the UK, but I hope you and your loved ones are staying safe and making it through all of this. Just want to make it clear that I am not attacking your point of view as your entitled to it, but for many Floridians he saved their livelihoods by allowing businesses to reopen in a safe manner. Whether or not the people that live in that state or visit it are smart enough to wear a mask and socially distance themselves is another matter all together, but that is not a Florida issue, that is a worldwide issue.
On a separate note, have you done one of your tribute videos on The Great Movie Ride? I would love to see that as I know you would have the most informative and detailed video.
Take care and hope you have a great weekend.

Right now Florida has about double the daily cases as California which has twice the population. California's cases continue to trend down, but Florida's are trending up. So by this data, what California did, must have worked. The truth it, what worked and didn't work is quite complicated and it's hard to draw a conclusion by looking at just one thing.

 

[seascape]

The CDC news is good and bad. It means more people heading to WDW. Again good for Disney but bad for lines. It also most likely leads to an increase in capacity limits. My wife though is very happy as she now doesn't have to worry about quarantines and trip to WDW is now 100% guaranteed!!!

 

[Stupido]

The CDC news is good and bad. It means more people heading to WDW. Again good for Disney but bad for lines. It also most likely leads to an increase in capacity limits. My wife though is very happy as she now doesn't have to worry about quarantines and trip to WDW is now 100% guaranteed!!!

Also means book your flights ASAP, air fare about to start really climbing...

 

[GoofGoof]

Wouldn't the option to show vaccination for additional rights i.e. no mask, sit with a large number of people in your group if all vaccinated, be allowed under this? It's only preventing admission or service all together.
That would deny anyone service.

That is my “plan” that I think actually works. The EO says you can’t require a vaccine passport for entry. Disney can simply allow anyone with a paid ticket in and require them to follow certain Covid safety rules like masks and distancing while in the parks, then you setup a system where anyone who wants to waive out of some of those protocols can show proof of vaccination or a negative test result. Those people are flagged by the my Disney experience app and they get a wrist band when arriving at the parks and or hotels so any CM can easily see they are exempt. For anyone not exempt CMs require them to wear a mask and distance in certain circumstances. Nobody is being banned from entry.

Edit: since we all need to book park reservations anyway now they could link your vaccination status to that system and allow it to flow through the app so now you can just show your status at the gate and get your wristband.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Disney is a Florida business and this applies to all businesses in Florida.

So Disney 100% has to comply

They can try to fight it. I don't think they will though.

until Disneyland starts to require it.

 

[DCBaker]

Numbers are out - there were 92 new reported deaths, along with 4 Non-Florida Resident deaths.

 

[ZodIsGr8]

I did a huge GMR edit

Thank you so much Martin! Going to watch it now.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

The EO says that the business cannot get state money if they require a vaccine. Am I wrong in thinking that really doesn't impact disney???

 

[seascape]

Numbers are out - there were 92 new reported deaths, along with 4 Non-Florida Resident deaths.

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The daily average is up another 100 a day. BAD, VERY BAD.

 

[ABQ]

Right now Florida has about double the daily cases as California which has twice the population. California's cases continue to trend down, but Florida's are trending up. So by this data, what California did, must have worked. The truth it, what worked and didn't work is quite complicated and it's hard to draw a conclusion by looking at just one thing.

Each governor appears to have done what their constituency voted them in for.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Why is DeSantis such a idiot?

Asking on behalf of all my Floridian friends bar one.

His entire shtick is "mimic Trump in every possible way so the dregs of society will like me"

 

[DCBaker]

Current Florida vaccine report -

 

[Kevin_W]

Each governor appears to have done what their constituency voted them in for.

Not Ohio. He's ed off both Republicans and Democrats at various points. So that probably means he's doing an okay job.

 

[ABQ]

Not Ohio. He's ****ed off both Republicans and Democrats at various points. So that probably means he's doing an okay job.

I was really just focusing on CA and FL, but you're probably right, if only is ticked off, then something good may be happening.

 

[Polkadotdress]

No governor handled the pandemic spectacularly well, but DeSantis actually has positive ratings from Floridians, at least in the polling I saw recently.

Not from this Floridian.

 

[Chi84]

It also doesn't say much about penalties. If I am reading it right it does sound like the state could revoke a companies business license, but if Disney decided to violate this, does anyone really think the state would shut them down?

It doesn’t read like an executive order based on an emergency - the possibility that someone may do something you don’t like in the future doesn’t constitute an emergency.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Oh.

 

[GimpYancIent]

That is my “plan” that I think actually works. The EO says you can’t require a vaccine passport for entry. Disney can simply allow anyone with a paid ticket in and require them to follow certain Covid safety rules like masks and distancing while in the parks, then you setup a system where anyone who wants to waive out of some of those protocols can show proof of vaccination or a negative test result. Those people are flagged by the my Disney experience app and they get a wrist band when arriving at the parks and or hotels so any CM can easily see they are exempt. For anyone not exempt CMs require them to wear a mask and distance in certain circumstances. Nobody is being banned from entry.

Edit: since we all need to book park reservations anyway now they could link your vaccination status to that system and allow it to flow through the app so now you can just show your status at the gate and get your wristband.

Impressive. You put some thought into the concept and it is something that may get some traction. Tie your concept to the magic bands?