Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[HarperRose]

Thank you for completely ignoring the entire point of what I said.

I can't answer it without getting political. It was not ignored. Do some googling on the state of WI politics. Maybe then you'll understand.

 

[Chi84]

Thank you for completely ignoring the entire point of what I said.

I'm not the poster, but I doubt it was ignored. Anyway, I thought what you said was entirely accurate, and the situation is certainly going to come up even more often as the "emergency" becomes less so.

 

[JoeCamel]

This is not good, I hope it turns out to be a real mistake



The tweet is no longer available - could you share? Or was it false information?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

This is not good, I hope it turns out to be a real mistake

Just watching a update on it now. Not good.

 

[JoeCamel]

Just watching a update on it now. Not good.

Watching the news they reported that a pop up site (gave addy) had J&J doses for anyone that came until 7 tonight. Real time this is weird

 

[DCBaker]

This is not good, I hope it turns out to be a real mistake

Of note -

"It does not affect Johnson & Johnson doses that are currently being delivered and used nationwide. All those doses were produced in the Netherlands, where operations have been fully approved by federal regulators."

 

[danlb_2000]

This is not good, I hope it turns out to be a real mistake

I am less concerned about the impact this will have on getting doses delivered, and more concerned about what impact this will have on confidence in vaccines in general.

 

[ABQ]

This is not good, I hope it turns out to be a real mistake

Call me surprised, though I shouldn't be, that with the importance of this vaccine that two competing organizations both rely upon a 3rd party, the same 3rd party, to manufacture their goods. I'm just naïve I guess.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Watching the news they reported that a pop up site (gave addy) had J&J doses for anyone that came until 7 tonight. Real time this is weird

Of the messed up ones!?

 

[Disney Experience]

This is not good, I hope it turns out to be a real mistake

And the two vaccines they mixed in/up ingredients for are Johnson and Johnson...and you probably guessed it... AstraZeneca.

Old October post describing Emergent (The company making the mistake/mix-up) and which covid vaccines they are producing,.

Hey investors, COVID-19 vaccine manufacturing partner Emergent won't suffer from AZ, J&J trial holds: analysts

Shares of Emergent BioSolutions have been on a roller coaster of late, plummeting last month when customer AstraZeneca had to put its COVID-19 vaccine trial on hold, then taking a beating again yes | Emergent BioSolutions quickly became a pandemic manufacturing linchpin as vaccine makers Johnson...

www.fiercepharma.com

 

[DCBaker]

Of the messed up ones!?

No.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

And the two vaccines they mixed in/up ingredients for are Johnson and Johnson...and you probably guessed it... AstraZeneca.

Old October post describing Emergent (They company making the mistake/mix-up) and which covid vaccines they are producing,.

Hey investors, COVID-19 vaccine manufacturing partner Emergent won't suffer from AZ, J&J trial holds: analysts

Shares of Emergent BioSolutions have been on a roller coaster of late, plummeting last month when customer AstraZeneca had to put its COVID-19 vaccine trial on hold, then taking a beating again yes | Emergent BioSolutions quickly became a pandemic manufacturing linchpin as vaccine makers Johnson...

www.fiercepharma.com

Truly the last thing we needed right now

 

[Disney Experience]

Of the messed up ones!?

Current doses in US inventory are not from Emergent, but they were producing future doses

Millions of Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine doses ruined by mistake: report

Future shipments of Johnson & Johnson’s coronavirus vaccine have been halted in the US after a mistake at a manufacturing plant ruined 15 million doses and raised questions about quality contro…

nypost.com

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

That brings up an interesting question. Before the pandemic, there were many places of business were face coverings were not permitted for security reasons. You couldn't, for example, walk into a bank with a mask on. The usefulness of security cameras, for instance, is significantly decreased if you cannot see someone's face. Once the pandemic is over, I wonder if businesses will continue to allow people to wear masks if they choose to do so, or if they will go back to the pre-pandemic rules of no face coverings.

My guess is they'll go back to pre-pandemic rules. There was a reason for prohibiting masks; the pandemic superseded those reasons, but once it's under control, I expect those rules will return. Either that or bank robbers will have an additional tool in their belt.

Will be interesting to see if masks become “normal” the way they are in Japan etc.

I don’t believe there is any legitimate security risk to wearing a face mask, certainly banks and airports and casinos are doing just fine with guests wearing them.

 

[danlb_2000]

Of the messed up ones!?

No, based on the article it doesn't sound like this plant had actually started shipping anything yet.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

No, based on the article it doesn't sound like this plant had actually started shipping anything yet.

Right but I meant about the pop up center.

 

[JoeCamel]

Right but I meant about the pop up center.

No, the bad has not shipped, the juxtaposition was surreal hearing the come on down while seeing 15M doses in the trash

 

[Disney Experience]

No, the bad has not shipped, the juxtaposition was surreal hearing the come on down while seeing 15M doses in the trash

$150 million dollars down the drain ($10 per dose price)

Reputation problem for Emergent. Though the disclosure may mean the Quality Control checks worked (Eventually)
Bad for J&J, and AstraZeneca though the later has less publicity in the event.
People might be hesitant to vaccinate, or less likely if it is Johnson & Johnson. But if the facts stay as they are no one was injected with an unapproved (AstraZeneca) (For US) vaccine or mix of the two or their "ingredients"/precursors.

 

[DCBaker]

This is not good, I hope it turns out to be a real mistake

The NYT deleted the tweet - here is the story + direct link

"Workers at a Baltimore plant manufacturing two coronavirus vaccines accidentally conflated the vaccines’ ingredients several weeks ago, ruining about 15 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and forcing regulators to delay authorization of the plant’s production lines.

The plant is run by Emergent BioSolutions, a manufacturing partner to both Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca. Federal officials attributed the mistake to human error.

The mixup has halted future shipments of Johnson & Johnson doses in the United States while the Food and Drug Administration investigates. Johnson & Johnson has moved to strengthen its control over Emergent BioSolutions’ work to avoid further quality lapses.

The mistake is a major embarrassment for Johnson & Johnson, whose one-dose vaccine has been credited with speeding up the national immunization program.

It does not affect Johnson & Johnson doses that are currently being delivered and used nationwide. All those doses were produced in the Netherlands, where operations have been fully approved by federal regulators.

But all further shipments of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine — projected to total tens of millions of doses in the next month — were supposed to come from the massive Baltimore plant.

Those shipments are now in question while the quality control issues are sorted out, according to people familiar with the matter.
Federal officials still expect to have enough doses to meet President Biden’s commitment to provide enough vaccine by the end of May to immunize every adult. The two other federally authorized manufacturers, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, are continuing to deliver as expected.

Pfizer is shipping its doses ahead of schedule, and Moderna is on the verge of winning approval to deliver vials of vaccine packed with up to 15 doses instead of 10, further boosting the nation’s stock."

Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine is delayed by a U.S. factory mixup. (Published 2021)

A manufacturer in Baltimore accidentally conflated the ingredients for two different coronavirus shots, officials say.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Disney Experience]

The NYT deleted the tweet - here's a direct link to the story -

Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine is delayed by a U.S. factory mixup. (Published 2021)

A manufacturer in Baltimore accidentally conflated the ingredients for two different coronavirus shots, officials say.

www.nytimes.com

Not signed up for NYT and I am well passed the limit for seeing their articles without signing up. The NY Post referenced data from the NYTimes article, so that is where I had to look. Not sure if the true NY Times article mentions that it was the manufacturer Emergent

@DCBaker saw your update to your post that includes the text (Thank-you). Looks like they did mention the manufacturer Emergent in the article,.