Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Disney Experience]

One Blood sent me a letter concerning my blood donation. The antibody test was “postive” and therefore I have been exposed to Coronavirus in the past.

Well.... maybe, maybe not. According to current CDC guidelines, people such as myself who have been vaccinated may show positive on some test. One blood will have to update their form letter now that people who both donate blood and are vaccinated exist.

From CDC:

Currently available antibody tests for SARS-CoV-2 assess IgM and/or IgG to one of two viral proteins: spike or nucleocapsid. Because both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines contain mRNA that encodes the spike protein, a positive test for spike protein IgM/IgG could indicate either prior infection or vaccination. To evaluate for evidence of prior infection in an individual with a history of mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, a testexternal icon specifically evaluating IgM/IgG to the nucleocapsid protein should be used. Antibody testing is not currently recommended to assess for immunity to COVID-19 following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination or to assess the need for vaccination in an unvaccinated person

 

[Disney Experience]

One Blood sent me a letter concerning my blood donation. The antibody test was “postive” and therefore I have been exposed to Coronavirus in the past.

Well.... maybe, maybe not. According to current CDC guidelines, people such as myself who have been vaccinated may show positive on some test. One blood will have to update their form letter now that people who both donate blood and are vaccinated exist.

From CDC:

Oh but it is good to know I have detectable antibodies 5 months out from vaccination ( Assuming that is the reason for my positive antibodies result)

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Please tell me you can sleep in your jammies tomorrow and not face the world! It will get better, Though. It’s just your Covid repelling armor getting into place!

going to go to bed early, definitely feeling tired. Hoping I wake up okay. The first dose gave me moderate-ish symptoms, everyone I talk to said the 2nd dose is a doozy.

Arm still feels a sting.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Wait until they surprise you with the extra big secret THIRD shot the next time you visit. j/k.

I was actually thinking about this. I wonder what a second booster will feel like/ what the side effects will be. If more boosters become necessary will the side effects be something people will have to endure every three months or so? Will it impact people in the same way the second dose has been impacting many? I am looking forward to the results of the third shot trial that's happening right now.

 

[correcaminos]

going to go to bed early, definitely feeling tired. Hoping I wake up okay. The first dose gave me moderate-ish symptoms, everyone I talk to said the 2nd dose is a doozy.

Arm still feels a sting.

Hope you are doing better! Different brand but my am did feel the sting and soreness much faster the 2nd time, but I did not feel worse. Hope the same for you!

I was actually thinking about this. I wonder what a second booster will feel like/ what the side effects will be. If more boosters become necessary will the side effects be something people will have to endure every three months or so? Will it impact people in the same way the second dose has been impacting many? I am looking forward to the results of the third shot trial that's happening right now.

Not 3 months. A year after 2nd shot https://www.fdanews.com/articles/20...w-trial-adding-third-shot-of-covid-19-vaccine

3 months keeps getting tossed out, but it was misunderstood by the media what it meant at the time

 

[GoofGoof]

So after seeing all of Biden’s comments last night on vaccine rollout I think Fauci’s odd comments yesterday make a little more sense. They are setting a political promise that we will have enough vaccine for every American by the end of July. This is not a lot different than the 100M shots in 100 days promise. It’s meant to be a low bar, conservative estimate and it makes sense to slow play it a little considering all the logistics that need to go right to hit manufacturer’s targets.

Separately Biden did confirm that we are on track to receive 400M doses by end of May and 600M doses by end of July. He did not include JnJ in those numbers, probably because it’s technically not approved yet. Assuming JnJ hits their target of 100M doses by June 30 we would have enough doses for 350M people by end of June (way more than needed) and between 230M and 250M people by the end of May depending on where JnJ is at the time. So while we won’t have enough doses for every American (330M people) in May there are going to be roughly 60M kids not eligible yet and ultimately some percent that won‘t take it.

 

[dreday3]

So after seeing all of Biden’s comments last night on vaccine rollout I think Fauci’s odd comments yesterday make a little more sense. They are setting a political promise that we will have enough vaccine for every American by the end of July. This is not a lot different than the 100M shots in 100 days promise. It’s meant to be a low bar, conservative estimate and it makes sense to slow play it a little considering all the logistics that need to go right to hit manufacturer’s targets.

Separately Biden did confirm that we are on track to receive 400M doses by end of May and 600M doses by end of July. He did not include JnJ in those numbers, probably because it’s technically not approved yet. Assuming JnJ hits their target of 100M doses by June 30 we would have enough doses for 350M people by end of June (way more than needed) and between 230M and 250M people by the end of May depending on where JnJ is at the time. So while we won’t have enough doses for every American (330M people) in May there are going to be roughly 60M kids not eligible yet and ultimately some percent that won‘t take it.

I think Biden is under-promising with hopes of over-delivering. That's the way to do it too. Otherwise you make big promises and then they don't pan out, well...

 

[MisterPenguin]

So after seeing all of Biden’s comments last night on vaccine rollout I think Fauci’s odd comments yesterday make a little more sense. They are setting a political promise that we will have enough vaccine for every American by the end of July. This is not a lot different than the 100M shots in 100 days promise. It’s meant to be a low bar, conservative estimate and it makes sense to slow play it a little considering all the logistics that need to go right to hit manufacturer’s targets.

Separately Biden did confirm that we are on track to receive 400M doses by end of May and 600M doses by end of July. He did not include JnJ in those numbers, probably because it’s technically not approved yet. Assuming JnJ hits their target of 100M doses by June 30 we would have enough doses for 350M people by end of June (way more than needed) and between 230M and 250M people by the end of May depending on where JnJ is at the time. So while we won’t have enough doses for every American (330M people) in May there are going to be roughly 60M kids not eligible yet and ultimately some percent that won‘t take it.

Do you know if the U.S. ever optioned for an extra 100M doses from J&J? Are we getting 100M or 200M from them?

 

[Kevin_W]

Do you know if the U.S. ever optioned for an extra 100M doses from J&J? Are we getting 100M or 200M from them?

100MM, from what I read a couple weeks ago.

 

[dreday3]

Anyone post this yet? Good news!

 

[Jrb1979]

Anyone post this yet? Good news!

It's great news in getting life back to normal. I'm looking forward to traveling again. What I don't it changes is the economy.

 

[Virtual Toad]

For what it's worth. This vaccination site was announced yesterday, and at the time, it was reported that only residents of those two zip codes could receive it. Unfair access?

DeSantis criticized for giving special vaccine access to wealthy neighborhoods like Lakewood Ranch

As millions of Floridians wait to get vaccinated, residents in two of Manatee County’s wealthiest neighborhoods will be getting special vaccine access.

www.wfla.com

Also:

DeSantis on COVID-19 vaccine site controversy: âI wouldnât be complainingâ

After some Manatee County commissioners criticized the decision-making behind the state’s vaccine pop-up site in "whitest and richest" Lakewood Ranch, Gov. Ron DeSantis had one simple message: If you don’t want it, it will be given to another county.

www.fox35orlando.com

 

[ABQ]

For what it's worth. This vaccination site was announced yesterday, and at the time, it was reported that only residents of those two zip codes could receive it. Unfair access?

DeSantis criticized for giving special vaccine access to wealthy neighborhoods like Lakewood Ranch

As millions of Floridians wait to get vaccinated, residents in two of Manatee County’s wealthiest neighborhoods will be getting special vaccine access.

www.wfla.com

Well the county has 100k residents over 65 years old. This pop up clinic isn't making much of a dent in that, so, some may say it's preferential, but it's certainly a county worth focusing on to get the over 65 population vaccinated.

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

Anyone post this yet? Good news!

This is really important. Now that there's concrete evidence that it reduces transmission, normal becomes much more achievable. I hope Chapek is looking at these results and should reconsider the whole "park passes till 2023 comments". Because his dream of wall to wall crowds becomes much more acceptable with less transmission

 

[JoeCamel]

For what it's worth. This vaccination site was announced yesterday, and at the time, it was reported that only residents of those two zip codes could receive it. Unfair access?

DeSantis criticized for giving special vaccine access to wealthy neighborhoods like Lakewood Ranch

As millions of Floridians wait to get vaccinated, residents in two of Manatee County’s wealthiest neighborhoods will be getting special vaccine access.

www.wfla.com

Also:

DeSantis on COVID-19 vaccine site controversy: âI wouldnât be complainingâ

After some Manatee County commissioners criticized the decision-making behind the state’s vaccine pop-up site in "whitest and richest" Lakewood Ranch, Gov. Ron DeSantis had one simple message: If you don’t want it, it will be given to another county.

www.fox35orlando.com

Manatee had high death rates when it got into the LTCFs and has had a bunch of spread. I think he is right to target that area but it is Vern Buchannan's district so........

This has been done elsewhere in the state and it is only 65+ that are getting it at this time. Just so happens 65+ are more likely to vote for him but coincidence right?

 

[GoofGoof]

It's great news in getting life back to normal. I'm looking forward to traveling again. What I don't it changes is the economy.

It’s pretty good news for all of the workers who work in travel and tourism or restaurants. If the vaccine significantly reduces transmission then in theory more people can and will freely travel and eat out and go back to the bars once they are vaccinated. It’s a pretty big deal for the sectors of the economy that were the greatest impacted.

 

[GoofGoof]

Do you know if the U.S. ever optioned for an extra 100M doses from J&J? Are we getting 100M or 200M from them?

100MM, from what I read a couple weeks ago.

The US has options for more doses but they probably won’t negotiate a further purchase until after it’s formally approved for EUA. That’s what they did with Pfizer and Moderna. They had the initial 100M doses that were locked in and then they negotiated 2 additional purchases. I would imagine that shortly after approval they might exercise the option for 100M more doses in Q3. Even if we don’t need the doses better to be safe than sorry if something unthinkable happens to Pfizer or Moderna production we are still covered this summer. We can always resell the doses to Covax or other nations. There will be extremely high demand for JnJ being that it‘s one dose and not deep frozen. A really powerful tool for worldwide distribution.

 

[GoofGoof]

This is really important. Now that there's concrete evidence that it reduces transmission, normal becomes much more achievable. I hope Chapek is looking at these results and should reconsider the whole "park passes till 2023 comments". Because his dream of wall to wall crowds becomes much more acceptable with less transmission

Less transmission is also a big deal for families with kids under 12. If the vaccine prevented illness but didn’t prevent spread and your child wasn’t vaccinated it makes the decision to go to WDW a lot harder. If the vaccine reduces spread and most people 12+ have been vaccinated and cases are way down as a result it makes that decision much easier. I don’t know when wall to wall crowds will be a reality, but this helps with the progress towards relaxing some Covid restrictions. I still think masks are around for a while and distancing in queues and indoor restaurants probably too, but it could open the door for further reduction in distancing on ride vehicles as well as potentially having larger outdoor crowds for night shows or fireworks.

 

[Virtual Toad]

Manatee had high death rates when it got into the LTCFs and has had a bunch of spread. I think he is right to target that area but it is Vern Buchannan's district so........

This has been done elsewhere in the state and it is only 65+ that are getting it at this time. Just so happens 65+ are more likely to vote for him but coincidence right?

Purely coincidence. Perhaps a better way to go about it would have been for the Governor to call the county health department and offer the doses to them. Or stay out of it completely and let the state health officials contact local health officials.

But the governor called a rich developer directly and essentially said "Hey, I've got some vaccine doses, can you help me decide who gets them?" It certainly opens the door for critics at the very least.

 

[DisneyCane]

Manatee had high death rates when it got into the LTCFs and has had a bunch of spread. I think he is right to target that area but it is Vern Buchannan's district so........

This has been done elsewhere in the state and it is only 65+ that are getting it at this time. Just so happens 65+ are more likely to vote for him but coincidence right?

Purely coincidence. Perhaps a better way to go about it would have been for the Governor to call the county health department and offer the doses to them. Or stay out of it completely and let the state health officials contact local health officials.

But the governor called a rich developer directly and essentially said "Hey, I've got some vaccine doses, can you help me decide who gets them?" It certainly opens the door for critics at the very least.

It opens the door for critics because everything is looked at through a political lens. Nobody gives the benefit of the doubt ever. I'm not just talking about criticism of Desantis in this instance. I will guarantee you that if/when Biden targets minority communities there will be people who criticize that as pandering to his base when it makes sense from a statistical standpoint.

In this case, Desantis (correctly, in my opinion) has made vaccinations of people 65 and over the priority. He was given data about two zip codes with a high percentage of people in that age group and the same zip codes have the age group vaccinated at about half the rate of the overall Florida 65+ population. If you (not "you" specifically) didn't know who gave him the information and didn't know the racial makeup and median income of the zip codes, you wouldn't see an issue.

If there are zip codes with similar 65+ population ratios and vaccination rates that also have a significantly higher share of minorities and low income people and those zip codes ask for similar accommodations and are denied, then criticism can be warranted. Purely based on targeting these two zip codes, I think should be given the benefit of the doubt.