Jrb1979
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Agreed but it still shows why traveling right now isn't a good idea no matter what some think.
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oceanbreeze77
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I'm sure florida will do exactly that."A White House Coronavirus Task Force report about the state of the pandemic in Florida made public Saturday urges state leaders to take immediate action to slow the virus’ spread. Officials should close or severely limit indoor dining, limit capacity at bars and issue stronger policies around mask wearing, the report states.
Those are the same public health measures that Gov. Ron DeSantis has publicly assailed for months as ineffective. While he was making the case for no new business restrictions, DeSantis’ office refused to publicize reports from the task force which recommended a more robust public response.
The Dec. 6 report, which was obtained by the Center for Public Integrity, is one in a series of weekly reports which the governor’s office has refused to regularly provide news organizations. The Miami Herald has not received any of these reports from the governor’s office."
Here is the Task Force report -
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"STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - The head of Stockholm’s health service appealed to national authorities on Wednesday to send specialist nurses and other hospital staff as it struggles to cope with a second wave of COVID infections that has filled intensive care wards in Sweden’s capital city.
Nursing staff collects a swab sample from a person as new quick test kits for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) are shown at Skane University Hospital in Lund, Sweden November 12, 2020. TT News Agency/Johan Nilsson via REUTERS/Files
Sweden, which has not opted for the kind of lockdown adopted by many other European nations, has suffered many times more COVID-19 deaths per capita than its Nordic neighbours, with the total reaching almost 7,300 on Wednesday.
Stockholm and the surrounding region are among the areas hardest hit with 2,836 deaths. Infection rates are picking up again after a lull in the summer and autumn, and intensive care wards are now full.
“We need help,” Bjorn Eriksson, the director of healthcare for the Stockholm region, told a news conference.
There were 814 COVID-19 patients being treated in Stockholm hospitals and geriatric wards on Wednesday, up from 748 last Friday, the region said. That compares with roughly 1,100 patients during the spring outbreak of the disease."
"Eriksson said 83 patients were treated in intensive care in Stockholm.
“That corresponds more or less to all intensive care beds we normally have,” he said.
Faced by a surge in new cases in recent weeks, Sweden’s government has tightened restrictions on public gatherings while high schools have been told to switch to distance learning for the rest of the term.
On Wednesday the government said it wanted parliament to grant it more power to implement lockdown measures such as closing shopping malls and gyms.
So far, however, measures have mostly been voluntary and media have been full of pictures of crowded shopping streets in the run-up to Christmas.
Eriksson called for stricter adherence to the government’s guidelines to help relieve the pressure on the healthcare system.
“Enough is enough. It simply cannot be worth it, to have after-work drinks and hustle of Christmas present shopping ... The consequences are horrible,” he said."
in.reuters.com
Nursing staff collects a swab sample from a person as new quick test kits for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) are shown at Skane University Hospital in Lund, Sweden November 12, 2020. TT News Agency/Johan Nilsson via REUTERS/Files
Sweden, which has not opted for the kind of lockdown adopted by many other European nations, has suffered many times more COVID-19 deaths per capita than its Nordic neighbours, with the total reaching almost 7,300 on Wednesday.
Stockholm and the surrounding region are among the areas hardest hit with 2,836 deaths. Infection rates are picking up again after a lull in the summer and autumn, and intensive care wards are now full.
“We need help,” Bjorn Eriksson, the director of healthcare for the Stockholm region, told a news conference.
There were 814 COVID-19 patients being treated in Stockholm hospitals and geriatric wards on Wednesday, up from 748 last Friday, the region said. That compares with roughly 1,100 patients during the spring outbreak of the disease."
"Eriksson said 83 patients were treated in intensive care in Stockholm.
“That corresponds more or less to all intensive care beds we normally have,” he said.
Faced by a surge in new cases in recent weeks, Sweden’s government has tightened restrictions on public gatherings while high schools have been told to switch to distance learning for the rest of the term.
On Wednesday the government said it wanted parliament to grant it more power to implement lockdown measures such as closing shopping malls and gyms.
So far, however, measures have mostly been voluntary and media have been full of pictures of crowded shopping streets in the run-up to Christmas.
Eriksson called for stricter adherence to the government’s guidelines to help relieve the pressure on the healthcare system.
“Enough is enough. It simply cannot be worth it, to have after-work drinks and hustle of Christmas present shopping ... The consequences are horrible,” he said."
Reuters | Breaking International News & Views
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Animaniac93-98
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Which is why there is a disclaimer on the front page of the WDW site warning people about the inherit danger of visiting a place like WDW right now. They can't guarantee your safety.
oceanbreeze77
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wait a minute.....I was told Sweden is doing totally fine."STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - The head of Stockholm’s health service appealed to national authorities on Wednesday to send specialist nurses and other hospital staff as it struggles to cope with a second wave of COVID infections that has filled intensive care wards in Sweden’s capital city.
Nursing staff collects a swab sample from a person as new quick test kits for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) are shown at Skane University Hospital in Lund, Sweden November 12, 2020. TT News Agency/Johan Nilsson via REUTERS/Files
Sweden, which has not opted for the kind of lockdown adopted by many other European nations, has suffered many times more COVID-19 deaths per capita than its Nordic neighbours, with the total reaching almost 7,300 on Wednesday.
Stockholm and the surrounding region are among the areas hardest hit with 2,836 deaths. Infection rates are picking up again after a lull in the summer and autumn, and intensive care wards are now full.
“We need help,” Bjorn Eriksson, the director of healthcare for the Stockholm region, told a news conference.
There were 814 COVID-19 patients being treated in Stockholm hospitals and geriatric wards on Wednesday, up from 748 last Friday, the region said. That compares with roughly 1,100 patients during the spring outbreak of the disease."
"Eriksson said 83 patients were treated in intensive care in Stockholm.
“That corresponds more or less to all intensive care beds we normally have,” he said.
Faced by a surge in new cases in recent weeks, Sweden’s government has tightened restrictions on public gatherings while high schools have been told to switch to distance learning for the rest of the term.
On Wednesday the government said it wanted parliament to grant it more power to implement lockdown measures such as closing shopping malls and gyms.
So far, however, measures have mostly been voluntary and media have been full of pictures of crowded shopping streets in the run-up to Christmas.
Eriksson called for stricter adherence to the government’s guidelines to help relieve the pressure on the healthcare system.
“Enough is enough. It simply cannot be worth it, to have after-work drinks and hustle of Christmas present shopping ... The consequences are horrible,” he said."
Reuters | Breaking International News & Views
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oceanbreeze77
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its Saturday.
Jrb1979
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I get that but raising capacity doesn't help. It still doesn't mean people should be traveling.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
I agree.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Why da hell would anyone go in there on purpose??
Jrb1979
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Its funny. Walmart in Canada is pretty much what Target is in the US. They aren't looked down on as they are in the US
Figgy1
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Mine actually has a large organic produce section and a decent selection of not milk milk
GoofGoof
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Exactly. I’m not sure why it matters if you got it in the park, at a restaurant or at the hotel. Sick is sick.
GoofGoof
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Tighter restrictions, schools going virtual, restrictions on public gatherings, closing malls and gyms...I thought Sweden had reached herd immunity"STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - The head of Stockholm’s health service appealed to national authorities on Wednesday to send specialist nurses and other hospital staff as it struggles to cope with a second wave of COVID infections that has filled intensive care wards in Sweden’s capital city.
Nursing staff collects a swab sample from a person as new quick test kits for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) are shown at Skane University Hospital in Lund, Sweden November 12, 2020. TT News Agency/Johan Nilsson via REUTERS/Files
Sweden, which has not opted for the kind of lockdown adopted by many other European nations, has suffered many times more COVID-19 deaths per capita than its Nordic neighbours, with the total reaching almost 7,300 on Wednesday.
Stockholm and the surrounding region are among the areas hardest hit with 2,836 deaths. Infection rates are picking up again after a lull in the summer and autumn, and intensive care wards are now full.
“We need help,” Bjorn Eriksson, the director of healthcare for the Stockholm region, told a news conference.
There were 814 COVID-19 patients being treated in Stockholm hospitals and geriatric wards on Wednesday, up from 748 last Friday, the region said. That compares with roughly 1,100 patients during the spring outbreak of the disease."
"Eriksson said 83 patients were treated in intensive care in Stockholm.
“That corresponds more or less to all intensive care beds we normally have,” he said.
Faced by a surge in new cases in recent weeks, Sweden’s government has tightened restrictions on public gatherings while high schools have been told to switch to distance learning for the rest of the term.
On Wednesday the government said it wanted parliament to grant it more power to implement lockdown measures such as closing shopping malls and gyms.
So far, however, measures have mostly been voluntary and media have been full of pictures of crowded shopping streets in the run-up to Christmas.
Eriksson called for stricter adherence to the government’s guidelines to help relieve the pressure on the healthcare system.
“Enough is enough. It simply cannot be worth it, to have after-work drinks and hustle of Christmas present shopping ... The consequences are horrible,” he said."
Reuters | Breaking International News & Views
Find latest news from every corner of the globe at Reuters.com, your online source for breaking international news coverage.
How do you say draconian measures in Swedish?By the way the Sweden story should give us a word of warning on taking that early victory lap. Go back a month or so and there was some talk of Sweden not having as dramatic a 2nd wave as others in Europe. Looks like that‘s not the case now. Similar thing happening to some extent now with Florida. Just because the 2nd wave isn’t as bad as some other places right now it’s not a good time to take a victory lap and give yourself a pat on the back.
Sirwalterraleigh
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I bet...I’m still on the other team though
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Probably because you don’t have an Arkansas...
Anyway...I’m not saying any such big store is very “altruistic”...and of course neither is Darth Bezos Death Star either
Figgy1
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My ds and I both have milk allergies, I have to know where to find not milk milk at a decent price and in quantities for a teenage boyI bet...I’m still on the other team though
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
What???
Why?...this is the first I’m hearing of it?
Isn’t there an OTC you can take for it??
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
"A White House Coronavirus Task Force report about the state of the pandemic in Florida made public Saturday urges state leaders to take immediate action to slow the virus’ spread. Officials should close or severely limit indoor dining, limit capacity at bars and issue stronger policies around mask wearing, the report states.
Those are the same public health measures that Gov. Ron DeSantis has publicly assailed for months as ineffective. While he was making the case for no new business restrictions, DeSantis’ office refused to publicize reports from the task force which recommended a more robust public response.
The Dec. 6 report, which was obtained by the Center for Public Integrity, is one in a series of weekly reports which the governor’s office has refused to regularly provide news organizations. The Miami Herald has not received any of these reports from the governor’s office."
Here is the Task Force report -
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Definitely the way to build a solid political future if you’re a blowhard...is to gamble with your citizens lives and hide the evidence.
That’s the epitaph of 2020. “so let it be written...because it was done”
"STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - The head of Stockholm’s health service appealed to national authorities on Wednesday to send specialist nurses and other hospital staff as it struggles to cope with a second wave of COVID infections that has filled intensive care wards in Sweden’s capital city.
Nursing staff collects a swab sample from a person as new quick test kits for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) are shown at Skane University Hospital in Lund, Sweden November 12, 2020. TT News Agency/Johan Nilsson via REUTERS/Files
Sweden, which has not opted for the kind of lockdown adopted by many other European nations, has suffered many times more COVID-19 deaths per capita than its Nordic neighbours, with the total reaching almost 7,300 on Wednesday.
Stockholm and the surrounding region are among the areas hardest hit with 2,836 deaths. Infection rates are picking up again after a lull in the summer and autumn, and intensive care wards are now full.
“We need help,” Bjorn Eriksson, the director of healthcare for the Stockholm region, told a news conference.
There were 814 COVID-19 patients being treated in Stockholm hospitals and geriatric wards on Wednesday, up from 748 last Friday, the region said. That compares with roughly 1,100 patients during the spring outbreak of the disease."
"Eriksson said 83 patients were treated in intensive care in Stockholm.
“That corresponds more or less to all intensive care beds we normally have,” he said.
Faced by a surge in new cases in recent weeks, Sweden’s government has tightened restrictions on public gatherings while high schools have been told to switch to distance learning for the rest of the term.
On Wednesday the government said it wanted parliament to grant it more power to implement lockdown measures such as closing shopping malls and gyms.
So far, however, measures have mostly been voluntary and media have been full of pictures of crowded shopping streets in the run-up to Christmas.
Eriksson called for stricter adherence to the government’s guidelines to help relieve the pressure on the healthcare system.
“Enough is enough. It simply cannot be worth it, to have after-work drinks and hustle of Christmas present shopping ... The consequences are horrible,” he said."
Reuters | Breaking International News & Views
Find latest news from every corner of the globe at Reuters.com, your online source for breaking international news coverage.
But I was told Sweden was the model of why we should do what we want....
...by fools.
To be fair, as the months of this pandemic have gone on, it's been said many times that the virus does not live on surfaces and is transmitted via droplets that are inhaled. Sanitizing and wiping down seats, handles, doorknobs, etc, is really nothing more than sanitation theater in most cases.
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