Figgy1
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The trend is going in the wrong direction and Thanksgiving is a week away. Not a good combo
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Kman
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my eyes suck...can you direct me to where you found this? Very interesting
"Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice.
Williams said that 93 percent of staff who have contracted the virus did so in the community, and that the majority of those who contracted the virus at work did so while eating in a break room with a mask off.
“It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” said Willams, during an afternoon press call. “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients. We need everyone in the communities we serve to do their part to limit the spread of COVID-19.”
The 900 staff newly diagnosed with COVID-19 equals over one-third of the 2,981 Mayo employees diagnosed since the start of the outbreak. When you add in staff who are quarantined or taken offline in order to care for relatives, the clinic is currently experiencing a stable shortage of 1,500 staff systemwide, 1,000 in Rochester."
www.twincities.com
Williams said that 93 percent of staff who have contracted the virus did so in the community, and that the majority of those who contracted the virus at work did so while eating in a break room with a mask off.
“It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” said Willams, during an afternoon press call. “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients. We need everyone in the communities we serve to do their part to limit the spread of COVID-19.”
The 900 staff newly diagnosed with COVID-19 equals over one-third of the 2,981 Mayo employees diagnosed since the start of the outbreak. When you add in staff who are quarantined or taken offline in order to care for relatives, the clinic is currently experiencing a stable shortage of 1,500 staff systemwide, 1,000 in Rochester."
900 on Mayo Clinic staff have contracted coronavirus in last two weeks
ROCHESTER, Minn. — Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice. Williams said that 93 p…
www.twincities.com
hopemax
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But it wouldn’t be “just COVID.” But there might be a paragraph or two about the 21st century pandemic and how the Asian countries experienced fewer deaths and a faster economic recovery than the United States which had dominated Global politics in the 20th Century. With China leading the list. Same as how we study the steps that document the rise and fall of nations that were powerful before the US.
And if it’s not clear, I am playing what might happen. Not what will happen. Given the current state of global affairs I’m not so sure authoritarianism is as much of a deal breaker as it was in the 20th century.
Or in 1790 would have any of the global powers would have imagined the role those 13 colonies would play in 150 years? History is unpredictable and if a country is successful at something, even if it seems antithetical, it shouldn’t be completely written off.
I keep editing, but this line of thought is what history will say. Which I interpret as 50, 100, 200, 500 years from now. Not what happens in the next 5-10 years, written by people who experienced this. But by people who haven’t.
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Disstevefan1
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The world has no idea how many innocent Chinese people died, how many Chinese bodies were bulldozed into mass graves....
Disstevefan1
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100 percent agree!
hopemax
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While intelligence expressed doubt over the Jan-March 2020 numbers, have there been indications that this is still happening? People are currently dying like they are here and it's being hidden? The predictions are that the US will reach 400K, at least. Why wouldn't History say something like, "China did not disclose the extent of their initial outbreak and an additional 100K people might have perished in that first wave. That number is still dwarfed by the number of deaths that occurred in..."
This post is not to take China off the hook, but we know how people use statistics to prove points. Some future historian is going to boil things down to deaths/million in Column A is larger than Column B by a lot, so why are we arguing Column A did it better?
GoofGoof
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I will admit that I’m not fully aware of how every country approached the pandemic. I am curious which countries took more drastic measures and had more uniform mandates and what they were. I know that places like New Zealand, South Korea, Australia and Canada had more restrictions initially but did a whole lot better overall. I did look up Belgium to see what the problem is there and at least according to the attached article they are attributing their issues to dense population but also to a less centralized approach (mandates that were not uniform)as the local regions all had different plans. Sounds familiar.
List of countries worse off than US:
- Belgium
- Spain
- Aregentina
- Brazil
- UK
- Mexico
- Italy
Why has Belgium been so badly affected by Covid-19?
The country, which has the highest coronavirus death rate in the world, has suffered from a lack of trust and coordination between different regions and cultures.
www.newstatesman.com
"Carnival Cruise Line canceled U.S. cruises through the end of January 2021.
The company said in a statement that it will eventually restart cruises from Miami and Port Canaveral first, followed by Galveston. It is canceling cruises from Baltimore, Charleston, Jacksonville, Long Beach, Mobile, New Orleans and San Diego through Feb. 28 and from Tampa through March 26."
The company said in a statement that it will eventually restart cruises from Miami and Port Canaveral first, followed by Galveston. It is canceling cruises from Baltimore, Charleston, Jacksonville, Long Beach, Mobile, New Orleans and San Diego through Feb. 28 and from Tampa through March 26."
Miss Bella
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That could be part of the plan.
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
sullyinMT
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European bubble cruises aside (with varying degrees of success as I understand it), cruising from US ports might as well hang it up until they can, at a minimum, get their crew vaccinated prior to restaffing their ships in any meaningful way.
I also wouldn’t be surprised to see CLIA join together and create mandatory “vaccination bubbles,” as international air travel and many small island nations might require it if their visitors. At least for any first phases of getting back to sailing.
JoeCamel
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I think many healthcare workers are conscious of what should be done but they often fall into the trap of thinking they have it all figured out and know better than the average joe or the CDC on best practices or are just fatigued with following best practices."Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice.
Williams said that 93 percent of staff who have contracted the virus did so in the community, and that the majority of those who contracted the virus at work did so while eating in a break room with a mask off.
“It shows you how easy it is to get COVID-19 in the Midwest,” said Willams, during an afternoon press call. “Our staff are being infected mostly due to community spread, and this impacts our ability to care for patients. We need everyone in the communities we serve to do their part to limit the spread of COVID-19.”
The 900 staff newly diagnosed with COVID-19 equals over one-third of the 2,981 Mayo employees diagnosed since the start of the outbreak. When you add in staff who are quarantined or taken offline in order to care for relatives, the clinic is currently experiencing a stable shortage of 1,500 staff systemwide, 1,000 in Rochester."
900 on Mayo Clinic staff have contracted coronavirus in last two weeks
ROCHESTER, Minn. — Over 900 Mayo Clinic staff have contracted COVID-19 in the past two weeks, according to a Tuesday briefing by Dr. Amy Williams, dean of clinical practice. Williams said that 93 p…
I've seen some that think they are around viruses all the time and know how to protect and deal but they fail on the consistency front.
I applaud them all for wanting to work in these conditions and before but can also see why they would fail the precautions in the break rooms.
None of YOUR colleagues/friends/family would get this and spread it right??
hopemax
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I'm sorry you interpreted my post as "praise of China." Since it wasn't clear the first time, my basic point is, if you don't want China to benefit from the post-analysis of COVID, then other countries have to deliver a strategy that outperforms China's actions.
We haven't. This will be a problem in the lens of history. History will look at the numbers and I'm asking why won't their strategy look legitimate in the future, especially in a world where authoritarianism is on the rise.
Personally, my judgment of China’s response remains heavily influenced by their actions to obscure and deflect the free exchange of information in the early stages of the crisis. They denied WHO and CDC teams access to Wuhan until international pressure forced them too. They refused to accept assistance even when it was obvious the situation was out of control. Critical days of global science were lost at the onset of all of this when it may have helped the most.
Disstevefan1
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I was simply replying to a post that implied that China did better than other countries by welding folks into their homes and all I said is the world has no idea how China is really handling it; that we can't trust any data coming out of China.
It seems all folks want to do is criticize efforts in the US...
Dan Deesnee
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How many people here would be for new legislation limiting cars to driving a maximum of 35 mph for 6 out of 12 months every year?
I ask because I'm trying to gauge what some view as acceptable risk. Roughly 40,000 Americans die in auto accidents every year. My hypothetical would no doubt save tens of thousands of lives annually.
I ask because I'm trying to gauge what some view as acceptable risk. Roughly 40,000 Americans die in auto accidents every year. My hypothetical would no doubt save tens of thousands of lives annually.
JoeCamel
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But then you go back to the economic impact. If you throttle things they can't grow. Do your part and we can all drive 65 so life is good
Kman
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danlb_2000
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Coronavirus Update (Live): 137,483,333 Cases and 2,962,790 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
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