Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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GoofGoof

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Not to mention they are fairly rural and a state with one of the lowest populations. Easier to control too
Yes and no. Population density makes things more challenging for sure, but it’s not all just rural vs urban. The top 3 worst states on per capita cases are considered pretty rural. Both PA and Ohio are top 10 lowest cases per capita and they both have multiple large urban centers. Different responses in different states do appear to be making a difference.

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SamusAranX

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Yes and no. Population density makes things more challenging for sure, but it’s not all just rural vs urban. The top 3 worst states on per capita cases are considered pretty rural. Both PA and Ohio are top 10 lowest cases per capita and they both have multiple large urban centers. Different responses in different states do appear to be making a difference.

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For sure, I am just saying for Vermont with it's low density, it makes it easier to implement the measures needed. The Dakota's are a prime example that just because your low population and rural, doesn't mean you don't need to do anything at all.
 

GoofGoof

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For sure, I am just saying for Vermont with it's low density, it makes it easier to implement the measures needed. The Dakota's are a prime example that just because your low population and rural, doesn't mean you don't need to do anything at all.
I think it’s pretty clear from the list that states that had a better plan have kept the cases lower overall and states with less restrictions not so much. I don’t think that’s the real argument though, the debate is does it matter. For example they went forward with a large motorcycle rally despite knowing it would be a big problem, but the argument was that the economic damage from not doing it would be worse than the virus damage. Similar to FL now. Nobody can say with a straight face they think removing all restrictions is a good move for FL from the public health perspective. The governor is saying the economy matters more so remove the restrictions.

My personal opinion is I’m not so sure that removing all restrictions is actually better for the economy in the medium to long term. I think it’s over simplifying things to say less limitations mean more business, especially with tourism. You need people to want to travel to an area. Lifting restrictions may attract the younger, bar crowd but is likely to sour the older crowd and families. So if I’m a bar owner it’s a no brainer for me to want no restrictions but if I’m WDW or a diner that relies on retirees I’m less happy with that plan because my demographics aren’t as happy with it.
 

Bob Harlem

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I think it’s pretty clear from the list that states that had a better plan have kept the cases lower overall and states with less restrictions not so much. I don’t think that’s the real argument though, the debate is does it matter. For example they went forward with a large motorcycle rally despite knowing it would be a big problem, but the argument was that the economic damage from not doing it would be worse than the virus damage. Similar to FL now. Nobody can say with a straight face they think removing all restrictions is a good move for FL from the public health perspective. The governor is saying the economy matters more so remove the restrictions.

My personal opinion is I’m not so sure that removing all restrictions is actually better for the economy in the medium to long term. I think it’s over simplifying things to say less limitations mean more business, especially with tourism. You need people to want to travel to an area. Lifting restrictions may attract the younger, bar crowd but is likely to sour the older crowd and families. So if I’m a bar owner it’s a no brainer for me to want no restrictions but if I’m WDW or a diner that relies on retirees I’m less happy with that plan because my demographics aren’t as happy with it.
Florida is going to recover a lot faster than most of the other states, and it hasn't put much of a dent in the influx of the snowbird crowd this year.
 

GoofGoof

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Florida is going to recover a lot faster than most of the other states, and it hasn't put much of a dent in the influx of the snowbird crowd this year.
I don’t see how we can know which state will recover faster. Seems like wishful thinking to me, which is fine. We all need to be a little more positive these days :)

FL‘s economy relies much more on tourism than a lot of other states and tourism is going to take some time to come back, even with a vaccine. Not trying to be a downer, but it’s the reality of the situation.
 

techgeek

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Florida is going to recover a lot faster than most of the other states, and it hasn't put much of a dent in the influx of the snowbird crowd this year.

Depending on where you are in Central Florida, a large percentage of the snowbird population is typically Canadian. Obviously, that population is going to be massively diminished this year, with a resulting huge economic impact:

 

Horizons '83

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Depending on where you are in Central Florida, a large percentage of the snowbird population is typically Canadian. Obviously, that population is going to be massively diminished this year, with a resulting huge economic impact:

And Floridians are cheering :joyfull:
 

GoofGoof

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Depending on where you are in Central Florida, a large percentage of the snowbird population is typically Canadian. Obviously, that population is going to be massively diminished this year, with a resulting huge economic impact:

I wasn’t even thinking about Canadian snow birds. My thought was more on senior citizens in general wanting to participate in the economy. The “safer” it appears the more certain people will be willing to do more stuff outside the home. So if I’m a diner owner following good Covid safety practices to keep my elderly customers coming back I’m not thrilled with overall cases rising due to the removal of restrictions on bars, sports stadiums and college parties which doesn’t help my business. It’s also possible many snow birds or permanent retirees are in FL but end up doing less because of rising cases. Just because you are physically in the state doesn’t mean you are out doing things like the pandemic is over.
 

techgeek

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It’s also possible many snow birds or permanent retirees are in FL but end up doing less because of rising cases. Just because you are physically in the state doesn’t mean you are out doing things like the pandemic is over.

There's been a lot of wackiness overall with the snowbird population. Many of them delayed leaving Florida initially back in March, especially if 'home' was a northeast hotspot. Some left current hotspots and came down here early. Others have stuck closer to family, or have been even more nomadic and firing up the RV and hitting the road. It's really been all over the place and it seems people are making much more individual decisions this year rather than following the 'flock'.
 
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