Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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King Panda 77

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Because nobody is advocating a mass shutdown !!

Whoever is saying that to you is lying to sell more ads for Supplemental Medicare plans and diabetes supplies.

Test and trace...then isolate. That has been the qualified medical directive since day one. Lockdown was for stopping mass community spread. No one suggested it would “die out”

People have to use their ears AND their brains...as opposed to other organs that don’t have such refined neurons.
My ears have refined neurons?
Season 8 Episode 3 GIF by Friends
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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People made fun of the guidelines California released but they are very clear and based on the current scientific consensus on how the virus is spread.

Gavin is evil. Cause he’s gonna open Disneyland Wednesday morning and throw a party for all his Hollywood “alliance” pals...and they won’t let anyone else purchase maxpass. 😡

Just ask anyone on the Disneyland forums. (But bring xanex for them first)

Shut downs are advocating isolating far more than that.
...but no one has said that...let alone come even close to doing it.
 

HauntedPirate

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Comments like yours are why this world is such a mess. A lockdown is never going to work to stop the disease. And the commenter's idea to return to the spring - for what? We don't need to close non-essential businesses. They aren't the primary source of spread. The vast majority have implemented safety modifications.

Melbourne would like to have a word.
 

brianstl

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Because nobody is advocating a mass shutdown !!

Whoever is saying that to you is lying to sell more ads for Supplemental Medicare plans and diabetes supplies.

Test and trace...then isolate. That has been the qualified medical directive since day one. Lockdown was for stopping mass community spread. No one suggested it would “die out”

People have to use their ears AND their brains...as opposed to other organs that don’t have such refined neurons.
People in this thread today have suggested it, but sure no one suggested it.


 

Chip Chipperson

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It would actually make more sense to isolate the elderly and others with know comorbidities than attempting to isolate the whole world from each other.

In a perfect world that might be possible. In reality, approximately 60% of adults in the US have at least 1 chronic medical condition and 40% have more than one. So without even factoring age into the conversation, you're effectively telling 60% of the country to stay home and isolate themselves. Then add in the family members who live with them who must also isolate in order to avoid exposing them and I don't see how that's any better for the economy. Oh, and don't forget the people who just don't want to risk catching the virus and being one of the unlucky ones who don't fit into the high risk category but still die. It hardly seems like the recipe for a booming economy and the only real difference is that people who hate being told to wear a mask will be slightly happier.
 

GoofGoof

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It would actually make more sense to isolate the elderly and others with know comorbidities than attempting to isolate the whole world from each other.
The elderly plus people with comorbidities make up greater than 50% of the population so from a pure practical numbers sense it makes much less sense to isolate them. If you are in the young and healthy category it probably makes more sense to you ;)
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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The elderly plus people with comorbidities make up greater than 50% of the population so from a pure practical numbers sense it makes much less sense to isolate them. If you are in the young and healthy category it probably makes more sense to you ;)

Yep...you can definitely have a “booming” economy that way.

...maybe we can start burning coal again too 🤔
 

GoofGoof

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Yes! I was just speaking with my Mother about Christmas Eve (our Thanksgiving is always small just immediate family so we don't have an issue there) and if we should get together with our extended family. We are going to wait and see how everyone feels and what the current state of the pandemic is in our area. My Mom is 76 with multiple co-morbidities and so we do what we need to in order to protect her. On the other hand she has made it clear that she will not be locked in a bubble and if she gets COVID and dies she is ok with that. So we work with her to determine what is the right path and where to have her get out and still live.
It’s up to you how to handle that. I have a friend who is planning to do a 14 day quarantine for him, his wife and his kids before Thanksgiving and then again for Christmas so he can see his parents. His kids are in virtual school and he works from home now so he has the option to do that. Not everyone can. Another option is to do a social distant gathering. Have elderly relatives come over but have everyone wear a mask and sit distanced and stay outside if it’s warm enough. We just did Halloween with our friends and their kids and we went to their house and stayed outside and wore masks when going indoors for a drink or to use the bathroom. I know it’s not the same as normal but it’s not locked in a bubble either. New normal....I actually hate that phrase because it implies it will be permanent. I prefer to call it a new temporary normal.
 

lazyboy97o

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It would actually make more sense to isolate the elderly and others with know comorbidities than attempting to isolate the whole world from each other.
Maybe you can be the first to actually explain how this is accomplished.
The problem with mass shut downs and isolation from each other even when done with extreme effectiveness, is it only delays the spread to when you open back up and people start to congregate together indoors.
The virus does not spontaneously generate when people interact. If the virus has no place to go then it doesn't just site dormant until it has an opportunity.
 

mmascari

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Shame Australia and other places around the world have had no success with lockdowns. It might give a way forward for the rest of the grown up world .

you open back up and people start to congregate together in

The places that had success using a lockdown to reduce community spread to a manageable number and then continued to have success controlling spread all replaced the lockdown with new measures of containment instead of the lockdown once community spread was low enough.

There's no sense arguing with anyone on this thread that a lockdown cannot work as a full solution, none of them think it does. The only ones with this perspective are those arguing lockdowns don't work for anything.

It's a broad based indirect tactic to disrupt all interactions and get community spread down to a manageable level where other tactics can replace it. That's a HUGE key point in opening back up, other tactics of infection tracking, namely rapid testing and contact tracing to isolate infections and contacts faster than the virus can spread.

Locking down and then opening without implementing other measures once community spread is understood is a disaster. It negates all the value of the prior lockdown. That's where we've failed as a country. All the more so in areas that had low community spread and didn't need to lockdown. They could have implemented the other measures without ever locking down first, and they didn't.

TB is endemic in many parts of the world, but not the US. There's a TB vaccine, but practically nobody in the US gets the vaccine. Yet, somehow when someone tests positive for TB in the US, usually after being overseas, there's a plan and infrastructure that kicks in to isolate, contact trace, rapid test contacts, repeat faster than it can spread and become widespread. Even this has been underfunded in recent years but it's still getting the job done well enough.
 

mmascari

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It would actually make more sense to isolate the elderly and others with know comorbidities than attempting to isolate the whole world from each other.
Technically, you want to isolate the infected from the uninfected. And, there's way less infected people than any other categorization group. It's finding them that's the hard part.
 
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