Chi84
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Better dental care?
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MaryJaneP
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Yep! That's it. Nothing like middle ages dental improvements.Better dental care?
GoofGoof
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Why would population size matter? I’m not talking about total cases or total deaths. On a per capita basis those items are obviously much better too, but I’m not even talking about public health. Purely looking at economics, their Economy was much better off. The plan worked better there.
Germany and New Zealand have fared better than other countries in controlling Covid. Both countries are led by a strong female leader.
SamusAranX
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New Zealand does have the luxury of being an island nation. Extremely easy to stop people coming in and out and apply targeted measures to the populace that couldn’t be fudged up by outside factors. I think that bears noting.
TrainsOfDisney
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Because any country that did it right can’t be compared to the USA because of (fill in reason here).
GoofGoof
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Sure I agree with that. It’s an island which obviously makes it easier, but the question I was asked is if I was really going to compare the 2 based on population size which has nothing to do with it being an island. I also said New Zealand was an extreme example. None are perfect analogies since every country is different but most of Europe also did better.
Polkadotdress
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Wow...just, wow.
I don’t have a “choice” to quit my job, and putting that onus on me, rather than the person who’s out engaging in risky behavior is a classic example of what is wrong in our society.
So. Much. Selfishness.
I carry insurance for our family. I bring home the lion’s share of $. My partner is currently furloughed, likely to be unemployed soon.
I can’t “just quit”.
Tink242424
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Yes, but the lockdowns definitely either a lot of businesses go under or reduce their headcount. Just take the ripple effect on not being allowed to have indoor dining. Some areas couldn't just open outside dining (in some places that wasn't even allowed until the summer) so what did they have to do. Reduce or eliminate their orders from their suppliers, reduce or eliminate the amount of employees they had, etc. Now, just because they are no longer forced to be closed doesn't mean they are allowed to operate at the same level and therefore they are still reducing staff and orders from vendors.
This is just one example of how the lockdowns caused a lot of unemployment. You can take other businesses and extrapolate as well. So I don't think you can just say that since most states/areas aren't under a total lockdown that all the effects are just from the pandemic.
DisneyDebRob
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Here’s a great interview showing where we are with the vaccine. From developments to the ethical dilemmas we face to why the vaccine could be better then natural infection, what we do and don’t know about the virus to this point etc. A good read for all no matter where you stand.
www.medscape.com
For COVID-19 Vaccines, ACIP Will Be a Critical Gatekeeper
Eric Topol and vaccine expert Paul Offit have a one-on-one to discuss where we are regarding the development, authorization, and/or licensure of vaccines to prevent COVID-19.
www.medscape.com
Is your partner furloughed because of government restrictions related to Covid?
Also, you do realize that a lot of people advocating for less restrictions for risky behaviors aren’t doing it from a selfish “I need to be at a bar right now” perspective, it’s their livelihood - they work in bars, restaurants, tourism, entertainment, etc. and want to be able to work, just like you and your partner. I’m sick and tired of anyone who calls attention to the negative effects outside of infection rates being called selfish, it’s incredibly narrow-minded.
Tink242424
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Of course you do. You always have a choice as to where you work. No one is forcing you to go to your job. Stop being a victim and take responsibility for your own life.
Freedom means "the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint." You are the selfish one for imposing your beliefs over someone elses belief. If you business doesn't implement a rule that doesn't allow something then any employee can do what they want. If you disagree your right it to get another job. It isn't to impose your values onto someone else.
We all have bills to pay but I have heard of many teachers that quit because they didn't want to go back to teaching in the schools during the pandemic. There are numerous other examples of people leaving their jobs as they didn't feel safe. Did they not have bills to pay? I'm sure they did. So if they can do it so can you.
Stop playing the victim. You are responsible for yourself, not anyone else.
ImperfectPixie
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This is what's wrong with society.
Stop pushing anti-science ideas based on nothing.
TrainsOfDisney
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Honestly... it’s a global pandemic. There is going to be a loss of jobs no matter what. People are going to change their spending patterns no matter what.
The line at the chik-fil-a has never been longer. They are privately owned and are keeping dining rooms closed despite no restrictions requiring that.
Sorry but you guys can’t have it both ways. You can’t complain about how you need your job to support your families and then support measures that don’t allow other people to work and support their families because you decided it’s too risky. No.
ImperfectPixie
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Name one area that is in complete lockdown in the US right now.
Name a comment where I ever said there’s a complete lockdown right now.
I wouldn't characterize that time as 're-opening'.
There were still travel restrictions and restrictions on how many people could gather for a meeting or any other event. Businesses were told to keep people working from home. The death rate was traumatic. People were scared. And they mostly complied. And the few yahoos who didn't care and tried to open up a gym or indoor restaurant found their business boarded up by the state.
The next-to-last stage of re-opening happened in the Fall (and still didn't fully happen, the last stage of restaurants increasing capacity had the brakes stomped on that just a week before it was to happen thanks to this new wave).
New Jerseyans became lax. Schools and colleges broke down the bubbles the youth were in and they started to socialize indiscriminately again. People decided that their wedding, their BBQ, and their religious holy day celebrations were magically protected from the virus and became superspreader events.
I'm chasing after my customers whose nose is exposed and telling them that if they can't keep their mask on correctly, they can't do business here. And that's because they became complacent.
And that's how it is in Jersey.
Disstevefan1
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This brings us the the approach the US will take to end the COVID problem after Nov.3:
Biden wins, Senate and House also taken by the Dems.
Very soon after taking office, Biden deemed incompetent to hold office
Kamala is made President of US, strong female leader, COVID ended
See how simple
oceanbreeze77
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