Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Would I use the word waste?

No. But this year has been tough for me.

I live alone. I can't see my parents much as they are both higher risk.

Without delving into religion, my faith is being extra cautious on this; all meetings in person have been suspended for the forseeable future, and we are on virtual meetings. I am appreciative for the spiritual instruction but miss seeing my friends in person dearly. My volunteer work for my faith has been suspended, so I am doing methods that require me to be alone. Our yearly large gatherings were virtual; this is where i usually see friends who I haven't seen in forever, catch up, make new friends, etc.

I will be missing my close friend's wedding; I already missed one this year.

I am excited to get "back on the saddle" and travel late this year finally, as traveling is my fav thing to do.

I won't say I've wasted this year, but it certainly feels like time has been "lost" in some ways, and that 2021 won't be much different, at least the first half.

It's different for everyone. I am glad that some have been able to experience different things and I don't discount that experience.

But the social and mental costs of this pandemic, while not as great as the suffering of those who are severely ill or who lose loved ones, are there.

I wound never consider a civilization coming together to address a problem - though new and inventive thinking - to be a waste.

But that has only partially happened. So there is a tad of “waste”

 

[GoofGoof]

TWDC isn’t moving their headquarters out of CA. If people want to talk about that it’s fine, but probably good to start a new thread for it...just not in the news and rumors section since that’s neither news or a serious rumor.

 

[MisterPenguin]

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

As a stockholder, I find what California is doing to them and the other themepark companies outrageous.

As a stockholder you should have much bigger concerns. Like why Disney management is fighting with the governor instead of opening the parks like knotts is down the road.

 

[WondersOfLife]

You got really lucky... those aren’t the trip reports I’m reading now and cast morale is going to be at an all time low.

I don’t regret playing it safe with the virus, Florida numbers were crazy high at that time, but that would have been a good time for me to get a quick trip in.

I'm glad we got lucky then! The only park we avoided was HS.

Magic Kingdom felt like a normal day, yet the lines were still moving extremely fast. It was pleasant. We even had to wait outside a bit for CBJ. But we did just about everything in about 4 to 5 hours still.

 

[networkpro]

In the process of cancelling our December trip. The Dec 4th date would be falling mid-stream to our trip, and with the reduced hours, experiences, dining locations, overworked employees, and stress of Florida just letting it all hang out between the airport and grocery shopping, I've decided to move our trip to the 50th.

Sorry for your trip loss. However, it will be a few fewer bodies to contend with during our trip that week

 

[networkpro]

I'm glad we got lucky then! The only park we avoided was HS.

Magic Kingdom felt like a normal day, yet the lines were still moving extremely fast. It was pleasant. We even had to wait outside a bit for CBJ. But we did just about everything in about 4 to 5 hours still.

That was our experience as well during the week after Labor Day. We did however spend about 5 hours at HS, but spent it mostly in Toy Story Land, Black Spire, and of course Mickeys' railway.

 

[GimpYancIent]

TWDC isn’t moving their headquarters out of CA. If people want to talk about that it’s fine, but probably good to start a new thread for it...just not in the news and rumors section since that’s neither news or a serious rumor.

Hello!, it is a pretty good rumor as it is 2020 and anything is possible. TWDC may just shock everyone. Besides it got a rapid response from you so I say it is a good rumor.

 

[seascape]

Great adventure...really? That’s your bell weather.

Stock gains are free money. You are a passive participant. Nothing should be “free”...tax away.

Tax me...fair share. Just spend it wisely.

That’s a big ask...I know

As for tax rates, I am willing to pay a reasonable rate. I have even asked my liberal friends to tell me what is reasonable and I would agree to whatever rate they wanted provided it could never ever be raised in the future, but they would never agree to that. As for Great Adventure, I am not comparing Disney to Six Flags but am comparing how crowds can be safely handled. Opening Disneyland, Universal Studios, and the other parks can be done safely and should be. The idea that California can harm companies and not pay a price is crazy. California needs to reopen or for the companies to leave.

 

[MisterPenguin]

It's not just the executives that pay the high taxes, California charges The Walt Disney Company too much too. As a stockholder, I find what California is doing to them and the other themepark companies outrageous. Six Flags Great Adventure has been operating under the strict NJ rules and regulations with no problems so why can parks open in California? All the companies is California, New York and elsewhere that are being harmed by too many restrictions must move or sue the states harming them.

This is why:

New Jersey...

California...

The bump in NJ is mostly among a portion of the Hasidic/Utlra Orthodox in Lakewood that is also the heart of anti-vaxxers and large parties that had to be broken up during the strict lockdown. Similar to Brooklyn.

But other than that, that's why NJ allowed GA to open since things were going relatively well since July. Meanwhile, there are still restrictions on capacity for theaters and restaurants and bars and churches.

 

[MisterPenguin]

As a stockholder you should have much bigger concerns. Like why Disney management is fighting with the governor instead of opening the parks like knotts is down the road.

It has been mentioned many times in many threads: Knotts isn't open.

Their hotel, shops, and outdoor dining is open, but not the amusement park. Just like Dowtown Disney is open but not the theme parks.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

As for tax rates, I am willing to pay a reasonable rate. I have even asked my liberal friends to tell me what is reasonable and I would agree to whatever rate they wanted provided it could never ever be raised in the future, but they would never agree to that. As for Great Adventure, I am not comparing Disney to Six Flags but am comparing how crowds can be safely handled. Opening Disneyland, Universal Studios, and the other parks can be done safely and should be. The idea that California can harm companies and not pay a price is crazy. California needs to reopen or for the companies to leave.

Well...i went to Hershey...in “non-hot zone”’pa last month...and that was enough.
Reminded me of the old James Carville quote...

New Jersey...
The bump in NJ is mostly among a portion of the Hasidic/Utlra Orthodox in Lakewood that is also the heart of anti-vaxxers and large parties that had to be broken up during the strict lockdown. Similar to Brooklyn.

Thanks for that...I was intentionally NOT looking...knowing i wouldn’t like it.

Between this and the “blue flaggers”...ocean county is a doozy.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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[TrainsOfDisney]

It has been mentioned many times in many threads: Knotts isn't open.

Their hotel, shops, and outdoor dining is open, but not the amusement park. Just like Dowtown Disney is open but not the theme parks.

If people are paying money to go through the turnstiles the park is open in some form.

 

[Miss Bella]

If people are paying money to go through the turnstiles the park is open in some form.

California's Best Theme Park & Amusement Park | Knott's Berry Farm

Fun is always in season at Knott’s Berry Farm! With dozens of rides, roller coasters, & attractions in five themed areas, there is something for everyone!

www.knotts.com

If you read the banner at the top of their website it says its closed. There shops and dining are open similar to DDD. SeaWorld is open, but the rides are not operating.

 

[DisneyCane]

Florida data preview for 10/1.

2,695 New Resident Cases
3.76% new case positive rate (will probably be a little higher on PDF)
Over 72,000 total tests

Let's see if the numbers (particularly positive rate) stay in this range for the next 1-2 weeks as data starts coming in for cases that would have been contracted after Phase 3 begun statewide a week ago today.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If people are paying money to go through the turnstiles the park is open in some form.

Not really

Florida data preview for 10/1.

2,695 New Resident Cases
3.76% new case positive rate (will probably be a little higher on PDF)
Over 72,000 total tests

Let's see if the numbers (particularly positive rate) stay in this range for the next 1-2 weeks as data starts coming in for cases that would have been contracted after Phase 3 begun statewide a week ago today.

What’s the R value?

By all means...get it down to 1%...and do it for 14 days...

But I don’t think they can do it. Blame ron

 

[SamusAranX]

Well, this thre

Florida data preview for 10/1.

2,695 New Resident Cases
3.76% new case positive rate (will probably be a little higher on PDF)
Over 72,000 total tests

Let's see if the numbers (particularly positive rate) stay in this range for the next 1-2 weeks as data starts coming in for cases that would have been contracted after Phase 3 begun statewide a week ago today.

Best news out of Florida in a long time and yea, let’s hope it sticks. Don’t think it will but maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Not really

Can you and @MisterPenguin let me know which phrase to use? Knotts theme park is being used to sell tickets and click the turnstiles... if open is the wrong term what is the right term and I’ll use that.

 

[Miss Bella]

Can you and @MisterPenguin let me know which phrase to use? Knotts theme park is being used to sell tickets and click the turnstiles... if open is the wrong term what is the right term and I’ll use that.

I could not buy tickets on the website. It says on sale soon. Where can you buy tickets?