Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[legwand77]

This article is just blatant fear mongering , it could have been written last week and many time over the past few years. Obviously a person not well versed in hospital capacity management.

Several South Florida hospitals report less than 7% of ICU beds available - WSVN 7News | Miami News, Weather, Sports | Fort Lauderdale

MIAMI (WSVN) - State officials have reported several hospitals across Florida have less than 7% of Intensive Care Unit beds available, including some in South<a class="excerpt-read-more"...

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but some at least are actually looking at the data

"A lot of these people are younger and about 40 percent of them are coming in to Jackson for other reasons,” Migoya said. “They’ve ended up in a car accident or other things, and as we test every patient that comes in, we have found them to be (COVID-19) positive. So they are not necessarily as sick as some of the other ones and many of them are asymptomatic.”

Younger people coming to ER for other reasons, then testing positive for COVID-19

Statewide and nationally, the age of Florida coronavirus is dropping, but that doesn't mean it should be taken lightly, experts say.

www.local10.com

 

[hopemax]

Someone has watched Jaws.

 

[WDWTrojan]

This article is just blatant fear mongering , it could have been written last week and many time over the past few years. Obviously a person not well versed in hospital capacity management.

Several South Florida hospitals report less than 7% of ICU beds available - WSVN 7News | Miami News, Weather, Sports | Fort Lauderdale

MIAMI (WSVN) - State officials have reported several hospitals across Florida have less than 7% of Intensive Care Unit beds available, including some in South<a class="excerpt-read-more"...

wsvn.com

but so at lest are actually looking at the data

"A lot of these people are younger and about 40 percent of them are coming in to Jackson for other reasons,” Migoya said. “They’ve ended up in a car accident or other things, and as we test every patient that comes in, we have found them to be (COVID-19) positive. So they are not necessarily as sick as some of the other ones and many of them are asymptomatic.”

Younger people coming to ER for other reasons, then testing positive for COVID-19

Statewide and nationally, the age of Florida coronavirus is dropping, but that doesn't mean it should be taken lightly, experts say.

www.local10.com

Thank you Dr. Legwand.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

This article is just blatant fear mongering , it could have been written last week and many time over the past few years. Obviously a person not well versed in hospital capacity management.

Several South Florida hospitals report less than 7% of ICU beds available - WSVN 7News | Miami News, Weather, Sports | Fort Lauderdale

MIAMI (WSVN) - State officials have reported several hospitals across Florida have less than 7% of Intensive Care Unit beds available, including some in South<a class="excerpt-read-more"...

wsvn.com

but so at lest are actually looking at the data

"A lot of these people are younger and about 40 percent of them are coming in to Jackson for other reasons,” Migoya said. “They’ve ended up in a car accident or other things, and as we test every patient that comes in, we have found them to be (COVID-19) positive. So they are not necessarily as sick as some of the other ones and many of them are asymptomatic.”

Younger people coming to ER for other reasons, then testing positive for COVID-19

Statewide and nationally, the age of Florida coronavirus is dropping, but that doesn't mean it should be taken lightly, experts say.

www.local10.com

there is a reason its called SURGE capacity.
Okay so lets say hospitals are at 90% capacity year round, under normal circumstances you have some people trickle in here and there, some people coming in and out, etc. That 10% is a decent amount of space to accommodate these people. But with coronavirus, you have the potential for a SURGE of people to come in at one time(hence the panic over the number of positive cases), exceeding that 10% availability. That is a problem.

 

[Miss Bella]

This article is just blatant fear mongering , it could have been written last week and many time over the past few years. Obviously a person not well versed in hospital capacity management.

Several South Florida hospitals report less than 7% of ICU beds available - WSVN 7News | Miami News, Weather, Sports | Fort Lauderdale

MIAMI (WSVN) - State officials have reported several hospitals across Florida have less than 7% of Intensive Care Unit beds available, including some in South<a class="excerpt-read-more"...

wsvn.com

I agree. Several times during any given year we will run out of hospital ICU beds. It's not uncommon actually it is very common to run out of all beds. It's an up and down cycle as we move patients around and discharge patients. Every year from January to March we are at 100% capacity. We always manage to get through it. This is no different in my opinion if anything it's a little easier.

 

[Miss Bella]

there is a reason its called SURGE capacity.
Okay so lets say hospitals are at 90% capacity year round, under normal circumstances you have some people trickle in here and there, some people coming in and out, etc. That 10% is a decent amount of space to accommodate these people. But with coronavirus, you have the potential for a SURGE of people to come in at one time(hence the panic over the number of positive cases), exceeding that 10% availability. That is a problem.

That's exactly what we call it and that's when we get the extra 250.00 plus time and half per shift. . It' happens every Winter.

 

[legwand77]

there is a reason its called SURGE capacity.
Okay so lets say hospitals are at 90% capacity year round, under normal circumstances you have some people trickle in here and there, some people coming in and out, etc. That 10% is a decent amount of space to accommodate these people. But with coronavirus, you have the potential for a SURGE of people to come in at one time(hence the panic over the number of positive cases), exceeding that 10% availability. That is a problem.

It is a problem if you don't have plan and they do, obviously you don't understand hospital capacity management

 

[legwand77]

Someone should tell this mayor guy the hospitals are fine...what’s he talkin about

I agree with you and his closing the beaches is misguided imho, lets make everyone stay inside close quarters great idea

 

[legwand77]

Thank you Dr. Legwand.

Not making any medical claims just looking at the basic numerical data and history, also by what hospitals are saying but thank you for the degree

 

[legwand77]

Someone has watched Jaws.

That line, meme was used when Jacksonville Beach opened in April, cute, but wrong as nothing ever came from it. Short memories I guess.

 

[WDWTrojan]

I agree with you and his closing the beaches is misguided imho, lets make everyone stay inside close quarters great idea

He's being sarcastic.

 

[legwand77]

He's being sarcastic.

yes that was very clear

 

[hopemax]

That line, meme was used when Jacksonville Beach opened in April, cute, but wrong as nothing ever came from it. Short memories I guess.

Did I miss a memo that jokes/memes are "one time only" during pandmic?

 

[legwand77]

Did I miss a memo that jokes/memes are "one time only" during pandmic?

no, but that material is tired and in that case did not apply at all.

 

[legwand77]

Why is the US social distancing 6 ft when the rest of the world, countries that are handling it much better are less, and some only 3ft

 

[Miss Bella]

It is a problem if you don't have plan and they do, obviously you don't understand hospital capacity management

It’s very evident people don’t understand hospitals capacity. . Hospitals have plans for everything. Surge capacity is something we deal with every flu season. We are good at it. We also have plans for pandemics. We converted two floors to all negative pressure rooms in a week. Hospitals should be busy during a pandemic.

If we would have continued the shutdown half the nurses and doctors would have been laid off and people would have been dying for other reasons.

 

[hopemax]

no, but that material is tired and in that case did not apply at all.

A mayor is closing a beach over 4th of July. It could have been closed because of a sharknado, it would still warrant a Jaws joke.

 

[legwand77]

A mayor is closing a beach over 4th of July. It could have been closed because of a sharknado, it would still warrant a Jaws joke.

Ha, Great point, I take it back, especially for the sharknado reference

 

[hopemax]

Ha, Great point, I take it back, especially for the sharknado reference

It's 2020, and a Saharan sandstorm is coming. I'm thinking, sharknado over 4th of July. Possible!

 

[hopemax]

So someone today, last night asked when we might expect deaths to increase, but I can't find that post within all the other posts, to quote. I was reading the epidemiology Twitter accounts I have been reading, and going down a rabbit hole, I found someone who Tweeted about what happened in Iran as possible insight.

On May 1st, cases started increasing in Iran. Like here, mostly young people at first. On May 25th, the deaths started climbing and have been climbing for the last month. Although the slope of this climb, is not as severe as the March wave. However, the last couple of days, the daily death numbers have risen to about 85% of the peak.

US cases, have been in a plateau until June 18. Starting June 19, they have kept climbing (yes, it's only been a week). So using the same 3-4 week timeline, that would put it July 10th - July 17th for the start of deaths to rise, and then we see what happens after.

You can use the graphs on the Worldometers pages for the US and Iran to look at the trends.