Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[jt04]

Specifically with Florida being the new Epicenter, I think the only acceptable balance for the state is keeping the parks closed until they can get control over this rapid spread. Its not just a spike here and there in cases, Florida is the new focus point for a lot of epidemiologists (along with AZ, OK, CA, and AL). Florida is in a dire position right now.

Lol. Back in March it was thought the fatality rate could be as high as 3 or 4%. Now it is commonly thought to be less than 1%. Possibly much less. Imagine the country shutting down every year for flu season due to similar rates.

Remain calm and stop with fear mongering please.

 

[TrojanUSC]

Lol. Back in March it was thought the fatality rate could be as high as 3 or 4%. Now it is commonly thought to be less than 1%. Possibly much less. Imagine the country shutting down every year for flu season due to similar rates.

Remain calm and stop with fear mongering please.

We still do not know the exact death rate, but here ya go... and this is only through the end of May. This also says nothing of the long-term complications MANY survivors are facing.

 

[disneygeek90]

I saw last night on twitter that there are employees testing positive. IDK if its just rumors, but big YIKES if true.


I don't want to post the tweets but type in "gringotts positive" in the twitter search

I’m all for taking precautions but I think we just need to accept that team members (and guests) likely will test positive. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the parks are the cause or need to shut down but there’s no way to prove that either way.

Regardless, it’s no different that an employee at a grocery store that tests positive. There’s risks going out anywhere in public these days, which is why masks/distancing/sanitizer and all that goes with it will need to be practiced for at least months more. Those that had hoped that a July Disney opening would somehow mean that masks could be recommended instead of required were delusional.

I understand the risks that go along with theme parks and those that do visit need to consider that. Sure, I could pick up covid in the parks but I also feel like I’m even more likely to catch it in a grocery store. I say this as I am about 20 feet from the Transformers entrance in US currently. We have to be cautious but we can’t shut everything down for the next year either.

 

[Andrew C]

I’m all for taking precautions but I think we just need to accept that team members (and guests) likely will test positive. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the parks are the cause or need to shut down but there’s no way to prove that either way.

Regardless, it’s no different that an employee at a grocery store that tests positive. There’s risks going out anywhere in public these days, which is why masks/distancing/sanitizer and all that goes with it will need to be practiced for at least months more. Those that had hoped that a July Disney opening would somehow mean that masks could be recommended instead of required were delusional.

I understand the risks that go along with theme parks and those that do visit need to consider that. Sure, I could pick up covid in the parks but I also feel like I’m even more likely to catch it in a grocery store. I say this as I am about 20 feet from the Transformers entrance in US currently. We have to be cautious but we can’t shut everything down for the next year either.
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Is that the ride with all the screens?

 

[disneygeek90]

Is that the ride with all the screens?

Yes it is! Don’t worry I took a B-line for ET

 

[LSLS]

So say hypothetically if the majority who are tested positive is over 90% asymptomatic, did not know they have/had it and now we know from testing that they should quarantine etc. that is a bad thing? Remember hospitalizations are steady, the virus is already out there.

You keep saying this, yet the state is showing an increase in hospitalizations. It is not the same rate as positive tests, nor is it the max, but its on its way up.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

All the field hospitals and contingency facilities closed weeks ago. The hospital ships departed weeks ago. There's a hint.

And now they're planning on opening the surge hospitals again. (At least here in CA)

 

[DisneyCane]

You keep saying this, yet the state is showing an increase in hospitalizations. It is not the same rate as positive tests, nor is it the max, but its on its way up.

No it isn't. Compared to a couple of weeks ago, yes. Compared to when there were A LOT less daily cases through most of May, no. Compared to a couple of weeks ago, the daily cases are around 3 times higher. The daily hospitalizations maybe 25% higher.

 

[GoofGoof]

Often its the same people who will in a few months say "well why didn't Disney listen to the professionals?"

You mean like the people at the bar in Jacksonville who tested positive and now blame the government for opening things too fast? Just because something is allowed under the law doesn’t mean you have to do it. People need to take responsibility for their own actions too.

 

[Mattyp353]

And now they're planning on opening the surge hospitals again. (At least here in CA)

Where? Nowhere in Riverside, San Diego, etc

 

[oceanbreeze77]

You mean like the people at the bar in Jacksonville who tested positive and now blame the government for opening things too fast? Just because something is allowed under the law doesn’t mean you have to do it. People need to take responsibility for their own actions too.

"but I thought only old people got it?"

 

[GoofGoof]

All the field hospitals and contingency facilities closed weeks ago. The hospital ships departed weeks ago. There's a hint.

NRG stadium in Houston (home of the Texans) is re-opening as a field hospital. It was never needed in the original surge of cases. Hopefully it won’t be needed now either.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Where? Nowhere in Riverside, San Diego, etc

I saw it on Local news the other day. They interviewed professionals who are in the planning phase of reopening surge hospitals.

 

[GoofGoof]

"but I thought only old people got it?"

Only old people die...get your false narratives right

 

[oceanbreeze77]

The goal was always to flatten the curve. Not make promises impossible to keep.

Oh yes, just look at the flattened curve.

 

[Mattyp353]

I saw it on Local news the other day. They interviewed professionals who are in the planning phase of reopening surge hospitals.

You must be in a different part of the state. Hopefully they don’t need them - none of the LA or SD affiliates have mentioned anything. I split my time out there.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

You must be in a different part of the state. Hopefully they don’t need them - none of the LA or SD affiliates have mentioned anything. I split my time out there.

It was LA

 

[GoofGoof]

it has everything to do with it. I could give 10 such examples but thought one enough to make the point. If this was a true danger air travel would have been shut down months ago. And states wouldn't be opening back up.

Covid is a true danger. That doesn’t mean states can’t open up. There is/was a plan to start opening things slowly, assess the impact, adjust as needed and eventually get back to some form of regular life. Some states held their ground and followed that and others got more aggressive and maybe jumped the gun. So far the states with reopening plans that stayed the course are seeing a continued decline in cases and they are still getting stuff open. A win for everyone. In some areas where openings were not as well planned and people won’t take this seriously the case load is rising.

IMHO it’s as simple as requiring strict physical distancing and masks indoors or anywhere outdoors where physical distancing isn’t practical. It’s working in a lot of places and the places without those restrictions are seeing the spikes. WDW is following those requirements against the suggestions of the state government. Again, a case of people doing the right thing without the government requiring it.

 

[mickeymiss]

I'm in the middle of extremes. Story of my life. Take care of the vulnerable. Businesses can require any safety rule they want. No need to shut down. No need to close places that are using precautions. No need to shame people for wanting or needing to work. No need to shame those with fear or those without. There are ways to balance living life with safety.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Everyone keeps saying "we can't stay closed forever" and while that's true, we are just in the beginning of the pandemic. No we can't stay closed forever, but we can try to work and mitigate it in its track, which is what we were doing until about a month ago. Opening up right now was a bad choice. If we had kept lockdowns until the late summer early fall, we would have a completely different result than what we are seeing now.