News Coronado Springs Expansion - Gran Destino Tower

Coaster Lover

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Looking at the room concept art, I am seeing a large number of similarities to the refurbished POP rooms.
With regards to the general lack of themeing/"Disney"? How if you covered the art hanging on the walls between the beds it would be difficult to tell that 1) this room was in a hotel that was designed to be southwest themed and 2) that it was Disney owned?
 

Nextinline

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I'm not a fan of the all-star refurbishments or of the tower at CSR, but I don't have a problem with these rooms. The decor and theme are not bad. The sliding doors are well realized, the light fixtures above the beds add character, and there is some color, albeit earth toned colors, which go well in a southwest environment. WDW is taking many steps in the wrong direction, but I don't think these room designs are one of them.
 

aladdin2007

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With regards to the general lack of themeing/"Disney"? How if you covered the art hanging on the walls between the beds it would be difficult to tell that 1) this room was in a hotel that was designed to be southwest themed and 2) that it was Disney owned?
I agree.....and as nextinline's post said there are worse than this (Im thinking Yacht Club as an example), but Disney seems to be doing everything they can to make the resorts and rooms generic and sterile and anything but "Disney". That ugly chair and counter along the wall? Might as well go stay in a DMV office. Comes down to personal preference I guess, but the magic and difference is all being erased.
 

Sir_Cliff

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With regards to the general lack of themeing/"Disney"? How if you covered the art hanging on the walls between the beds it would be difficult to tell that 1) this room was in a hotel that was designed to be southwest themed and 2) that it was Disney owned?
Yes, interesting. Is Disney just hiring architectural firms specialising in hotel design these days? I don't know that any of this new development looks attached to the Southwest theme. The bar, for example, looks like it has a bit of a Gaudi theme and there are touches of Andalusia in there... which is all Spain rather than the Southwest. The rest just looks more or less like a mid-range to pricey hotel in any major city.
 

castlecake2.0

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When all is done has there been any word on if Disney will take control of the food and beverage operations for this resort? It’s currently an operating participant. I can’t see Disney wanting to give that rooftop signature dining option away to third party.

Now that I think of it, how did this become third party to begin with? I can’t think of any other Disney resort hotel that has this set up.
 

larryz

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Yes, interesting. Is Disney just hiring architectural firms specialising in hotel design these days? I don't know that any of this new development looks attached to the Southwest theme. The bar, for example, looks like it has a bit of a Gaudi theme and there are touches of Andalusia in there... which is all Spain rather than the Southwest. The rest just looks more or less like a mid-range to pricey hotel in any major city.
I was going to say it looks less Southwestern and more Moorish.
 

njDizFan

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I kinda like the inside ornamentation and aesthetics. I certainly does not scream southewest/Mexico, just a vague hint here and there. The tower I think I just bad from the outside and the rooms...ehh, basic and serviceable.
 

trojanjustin

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I agree.....and as nextinline's post said there are worse than this (Im thinking Yacht Club as an example), but Disney seems to be doing everything they can to make the resorts and rooms generic and sterile and anything but "Disney". That ugly chair and counter along the wall? Might as well go stay in a DMV office. Comes down to personal preference I guess, but the magic and difference is all being erased.
The bottom line is that this is the trend in hotels in 2017. Disney has spent too long lagging behind the market - heck they still had pattered bed spreads until a couple years ago when every hotel ditched them ten years ago. They've done countless focus groups that showed the room portfolio was way below market, quality-wise and was driving people to stay off-property because of it.
 

GCTales

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With regards to the general lack of themeing/"Disney"? How if you covered the art hanging on the walls between the beds it would be difficult to tell that 1) this room was in a hotel that was designed to be southwest themed and 2) that it was Disney owned?
While there is a "reduced" Disney feel, I was more looking at both having the sliding barn door between sleeping and bathroom, the farm sinks, etc.

It seems like Disney is moving toward a standard outfitting of refurbished rooms.
 

Casper Gutman

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The bottom line is that this is the trend in hotels in 2017. Disney has spent too long lagging behind the market - heck they still had pattered bed spreads until a couple years ago when every hotel ditched them ten years ago. They've done countless focus groups that showed the room portfolio was way below market, quality-wise and was driving people to stay off-property because of it.
When was the trend in the industry highly immersive, heavily themed spaces like Grand Floridian, the AKL and Port Orleans? It never was, certainly not to the extent featured at WDW. Disney was creating something relatively unique, spaces that extended and complimented the enveloping fantasy of the parks. The fact that hotel trends now dictate design philosophies is a key reason WDW is becoming less and less special.

The problems with WDW hotels "quality wise" was the maintenance, housekeeping, food quality, and price, not the intricate theming. In fact, for years that was the only thing RIGHT about the hotels.

As other astute posters have pointed out, this is an amazingly poorly designed space - there is very little theming and the bit that exists is, staggeringly, Spanish rather then Mexican. Which is just... mind boggling.

I think we have a pretty good idea of what the Riviera is going to look like.

Disney continues to be run as though the executives wish it wasn't Disney.
 

BoarderPhreak

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I think some folks are expecting Coronado as in San Diego, whereas it's actually Spanish colonial. Thus the reason there's no southwest feel. EDIT: My bad; it's Mexico not Spain.

As for the redesign... It's certainly rather modern and a bit... Sterile, themewise. A bit like POP, yes, but not as austere. It might be a trend in hotels these days, but I'm not a fan. Half the reason for staying on-prop is the theming. This loses a lot of that. Sure, it's upscale. And it might save money down the road on future remodels. This is Disney's big convention center though, so perhaps they're trying to appeal to a wider, business-like audience.
 
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peter11435

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I think some folks are expecting Coronado as in San Diego, whereas it's actually Spanish colonial. Thus the reason there's no southwest feel.

As for the redesign... It's certainly rather modern and a bit... Sterile, themewise. A bit like POP, yes, but not as austere. It might be a trend in hotels these days, but I'm not a fan. Half the reason for staying on-prop is the theming. This loses a lot of that. Sure, it's upscale. And it might save money down the road on future remodels. But I'm not a fan. This is Disney's big convention center though, so perhaps they're trying to appeal to a wider, business like audience.
From the WDW website

Relive the romance of Spanish Colonial Mexico at this enchanting Resort hotel. Find your mythical city of gold in a Southwestern-themed haven—from brightly colored casitas to rustic ranchos. Each unique accommodation provides its own unforgettable escape… and a welcoming home away from home.
 

Coaster Lover

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I was talking to my wife about this general trend last night. Her thoughts were that she's totally fine with the rooms being very modern/very clean/very contemporary (without a heavy focus on theme/Disney)... in fact, she said that would be her preference. In her words, if you want to theme, let the theme be more prevalent in the restaurants, pools, and on the outsides of the buildings... if I had to wager a guess, I'd say her opinion is probably right in-line with the opinion of the general public and is a big reason why Disney is moving in this direction.
 
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