Hakunamatata
Le Meh
disneyphilip said:I'm autistic, you know!
How sad. Using your condition as an excuse to not behave in an acceptable manner.
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How sad. Using your condition as an excuse to not behave in an acceptable manner.
Shaman
Well-Known Member
ClemsonTigger said:
I agree...
Although I do think CoP would make an excellent post show for SSE....
(unless SSE gets turned into a rollercoaster....then again, I think maybe that will make the prefect compromise....gut SSE replace it with a coaster and stick CoP at the exit) :lookaroun
wannab@dis
Well-Known Member
ClemsonTigger said:
Money! Why keep throwing money at the maintenance and staffers when nobody is visiting or the crowds have diminished significantly? It makes perfect sense to close it up and wait until reopening or replacement is warranted.
I'm still trying to figure out why he reported Gregory and his post. 
That was hilarious.
I think CoP still has value as a way of showing guests where we've come from, and how things have progressed (ha) over the years. I think many people forget (and simply may not realize) that most of today's kids have always had:
Cable TV
Computers
Cell phones
The Internet
These things did not exist, or at least not in the forms we know today (computers), when many among us were growing up. I think it provides a valuable lesson - that we survived and thrived when we didn't have cell phones, PC's, etc. I also think that many of today's kids are of the "Entitlement" mentality, and while it may not directly say it, CoP reminds us that nothing is guaranteed to us, that success is founded on hard work.
That was hilarious.I think CoP still has value as a way of showing guests where we've come from, and how things have progressed (ha) over the years. I think many people forget (and simply may not realize) that most of today's kids have always had:
Cable TV
Computers
Cell phones
The Internet
These things did not exist, or at least not in the forms we know today (computers), when many among us were growing up. I think it provides a valuable lesson - that we survived and thrived when we didn't have cell phones, PC's, etc. I also think that many of today's kids are of the "Entitlement" mentality, and while it may not directly say it, CoP reminds us that nothing is guaranteed to us, that success is founded on hard work.
Shaman
Well-Known Member
HauntedPirate said:I'm still trying to figure out why he reported Gregory and his post.
I think CoP still has value as a way of showing guests where we've come from, and how things have progressed (ha) over the years. I think many people forget (and simply may not realize) that most of today's kids have always had:
Cable TV
Computers
Cell phones
The Internet
These things did not exist, or at least not in the forms we know today (computers), when many among us were growing up. I think it provides a valuable lesson - that we survived and thrived when we didn't have cell phones, PC's, etc. I also think that many of today's kids are of the "Entitlement" mentality, and while it may not directly say it, CoP reminds us that nothing is guaranteed to us, that success is founded on hard work.
Those in their twenties can appreciate the best of both worlds....
I think CoP needs two new scenes (one of which replaces the current last one)....we need one about the late 80s/early 90s....and then one about what the future could bring...
Sing with me:
It's a great big beautiful tomorrow....
spoodles
Member
No offense intended, but report what? I about fell out of my chair when I read Gregory's post. I was hoping you would laugh with us. Sorry (sincerely) if it offended.disneyphilip said:Yeah. I just reported Gregory and his post.
And will you all please stop flaming me and misunderstanding? I'm autistic, you know!
prberk
Well-Known Member
HauntedPirate said:I'm still trying to figure out why he reported Gregory and his post.
I think CoP still has value as a way of showing guests where we've come from, and how things have progressed (ha) over the years. I think many people forget (and simply may not realize) that most of today's kids have always had:
Cable TV
Computers
Cell phones
The Internet
These things did not exist, or at least not in the forms we know today (computers), when many among us were growing up. I think it provides a valuable lesson - that we survived and thrived when we didn't have cell phones, PC's, etc. I also think that many of today's kids are of the "Entitlement" mentality, and while it may not directly say it, CoP reminds us that nothing is guaranteed to us, that success is founded on hard work.
Man, I cannot say how much I agree with that!! It certainly had that effect on me. And many of the teens and young people I seem to feel the same way if they have seen it. It's just a gentle reminder of where we've come from... and a nice slow-pace experience for the family, before going on Space Mountain again.
Paul
prberk
Well-Known Member
speck76 said:
No, but it can be part of the mix.
The reason that WDC uses nostalgia "to their advantage" is because... IT WORKS. And why does it work especially well for them, because it touches a strong nostalgia that is already out there for this company and its past.
In short, it works because it is valid.
Now, does every attraction need to be kept "just because"... NO. (I think the 20K Leagues ride was an example of one that I thought was ready to go, but I do wish they had found a replacement by now. But I did think that it was cool that when they replaced "Mission to Mars" with "Alien Encounter," the new show, which I liked, had nods to the old attraction in its signs inside. That is one way to move forward while honoring the past.)
Paul
prberk said:
I agree.....nostalgia works, because it strikes a nerve.
I have often thought that CoP would work better without a contemporary scene. Not only would the overhead be less, as the major scene upgrades would no longer need to happen, but it would not ever get "dated".
I don't think kids today can relate to the CoP, as it is too foreign to them.....most smaller kids I see in the theater are bored by the second turn.
KumbaRider
Member
speck76 said:
That's the sad thing with the instant gradification state of society today. Kids now have so much instant satisfaction from videogames and other electronics that these old attractions mean nothing to them. And I'm not saying electronics are a bad thing, it's just too bad the kids can't relate to some of the older attractions...which suggests why CoP is a candidate for change.
Hakunamatata
Le Meh
So where is Grizz?
wannab@dis
Well-Known Member
hakunamatata said:
He was demoted and sent to Intercot. :lol:
prberk
Well-Known Member
speck76 said:
You know, that is an interesting idea. Certainly less expensive than keeping up the "current" scene.
But I think that I would still like to see a current scene ... that is a walk-through post-show scene, leading to a final, perhaps interactive future place (maybe like a constantly-changing showcase for future technologies). ... another reason why this attraction would do well, revamped and located in EPCOT.
But either way is interesting.
And as for bored kids, you will always have some, no matter what. Not all are bored. I have been with many who like this and the HoP and other AA attractions. They help provide rest and balance the bigger thrills.
We do our kids a disservice and we disrespect them when we automatically assume everyone needs stimulation and sensory overload at all times. Even ADD kids need to slow down every now and then. :animwink:
Paul
NemoRocks78
Seized
He made a good choice.Legacy said:
imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
disneyphilip said:Yeah. I just reported Gregory and his post.
And will you all please stop flaming me and misunderstanding? I'm autistic, you know!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
imagineer boy: Surely you can't be seriouse?
disneyphilip: I am seriouse. And don't call me Shirley.
imagineer boy: Oh...
