News Contemporary Refurbishment--April to Sept 2021

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SLUSHIE

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The only thing that stands out to me that is cool is the archway they made leading out the balcony, it looks nice and kind of mimics the shape of the hotel also.

As for the rest of it, I don't really care. It's literally all the same amenities that were there before, just looks different. Don't care either way.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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James Alucobond said:
I don't agree with regard to Cabana Bay purely from the perspective of color. Even if all the right pieces and finishes are there, the color scheme just seems SO off for the time period. To me, it borders too much on parodic reimagining to be truly transportive.
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That's fair, but the color scheme in the Incredibles rooms isn't any better and basically everything else is worse, at least from an era aesthetic perspective.
 
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James Alucobond

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UNCgolf said:
That's fair, but the color scheme in the Incredibles rooms isn't any better and basically everything else is worse, at least from an era aesthetic perspective.
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Not saying one is necessarily better than the other, just that "colors and shapes of mid-century wall art threw up on a mid-century modern room" doesn't really do it for me either.

I do actually think the Contemporary rooms are more "correct", relatively speaking, with their color story, though they could definitely use more natural materials and wood tones and have other problems all their own.
 
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UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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James Alucobond said:
Not saying one is necessarily better than the other, just that "colors and shapes of mid-century wall art threw up on a mid-century modern room" doesn't really do it for me either.

I do actually think the Contemporary rooms are more "correct", relatively speaking, with their color story, though they could definitely use more natural materials and wood tones and have other problems all their own.
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I'm not only talking about the rooms at Cabana Bay, though. It's the whole resort that evokes that aesthetic (the rest of the resort outside of the rooms probably does a better job than the rooms themselves).

It's incongruous at the Contemporary because the rest of the resort doesn't have that feel (or even attempt to), so the rooms are kind of their own separate thing instead of being part of a cohesive whole.

Regardless of how anyone feels about the Moana rooms at the Polynesian, they still fit the overall resort aesthetic as a kind of tiki kitsch. I'm not a big fan of them, but I think the execution was significantly better than these Incredibles rooms.
 
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WDWTrojan

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MisterPenguin said:
Deluxe pricing isn't based on interior design, it's based on location and amenities and to a small extent, size of rooms (since you certainly don't get a lot of floor space in the standard overpriced rooms compared to other non-Disney hotels). The monorail resorts are overpriced to *a lot* of people (including myself).
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Not on decor per se, but certainly the quality of the room itself. Value and moderate have always been more utilitarian and motel-like. The deluxe resorts have always tried to offer a more luxe experience and while the size of the room is important, the design features, materials used, the level of detail are all supposed to get better with each category... the same way a room at the JW might be a little bigger than one at a standard Marriott, but the biggest difference is the room quality (better finishes, materials, etc), plus the soft products (better bedding, bath products, etc) - in addition to any other hotel-specific amenities offered.

By your argument it'd be just fine if a room at the Grand Floridian matched the exact decor of the All-Star Movies resort, so long as it was a bit larger in size.

20-25 years ago, rooms at WDW hotels were on par with industry standards for their similar hotels. Now through resting on their laurels and this terrible homogenization, it is impossible to have a "deluxe" Disney experience.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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trojanjustin said:
Not on decor per se, but certainly the quality of the room itself. Value and moderate have always been more utilitarian and motel-like. The deluxe resorts have always tried to offer a more luxe experience and while the size of the room is important, the design features, materials used, the level of detail are all supposed to get better with each category... the same way a room at the JW might be a little bigger than one at a standard Marriott, but the biggest difference is the room quality (better finishes, materials, etc), plus the soft products (better bedding, bath products, etc) - in addition to any other hotel-specific amenities offered.

By your argument it'd be just fine if a room at the Grand Floridian matched the exact decor of the All-Star Movies resort, so long as it was a bit larger in size.

20-25 years ago, rooms at WDW hotels were on par with industry standards for their similar hotels. Now through resting on their laurels and this terrible homogenization, it is impossible to have a "deluxe" Disney experience.
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Well... to say something contradicting the new received wisdom:

The new Contemporary rooms are not the same as Value rooms.

Yes, there is the new bedding policy in which there are layers of white, flat sheets, which does make all beds look the same. But the furniture in the Contemporary is clearly designed to be steps above a value room. Value rooms are all rectangles and faux wood floors. The Contemporary rooms have uniquely designed carpeting and shaped window frames and angled legs and full couches.

Yes, it's nothing approaching a true deluxe room outside of Disney, but, the monorail standard rooms never aspired to that.

But as someone who's bounced back a forth between Pop and Swolphin (a "Deluxe" hotel, when I could find a deal), this ain't a "Value" room.
 
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GimpYancIent

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In a nut shell the design team for this refurb of the Contemporary has no concept of what a "Deluxe" hotel room should entail. That said, obviously the design team has a very good idea of what a child oriented value room should be. The Contemporary refurb design team needs to be informed their services are no longer needed and a team that knows what they are doing brought in. At this point the refurb is in need of a refurb if the "Deluxe" classification is to be justified.
 
networkpro

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UNCgolf said:
It's almost amazing how bad they are right now. Random walls in the middle of the concourse to create a gift shop, for one. It looked so much better when it first opened.
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They might not look optimal, but they do wonders to dampen the echoes from the monorail passage. It was pretty loud before then.
 
phillip9698

phillip9698

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Its obvious that whoever is running the parks now doesnt believe that the actual resorts and restaurants can be structured and themed in such a way that they themselves become the IP people want to visit. Frankly its sad.

Again i dont see anything done here that was worth too much effort to throw into some All-Star Movies rooms instead. That would have actually been cool and earned them some points.
 
Bocabear

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networkpro said:
They might not look optimal, but they do wonders to dampen the echoes from the monorail passage. It was pretty loud before then.
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Well putting a whole mess of anything in the middle would dampen the sound...but I don't think sound was ever a true issue in the concourse... I would have rather seen them build that crap-tacular shop on the lobby level, or quite frankly anywhere other than in the middle of the concourse... It looks cheap and ruins the feel of the space.
Move the Arcade to another location and expand the store on that side so that this monstrosity can go away for good.
 

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