No Name
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No no! That's not the problem!
It's "uh oh" that he did not realize Epcot is part of Walt Disney World. He said he's visiting "Disney World, Epcot, and Universal."
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News Club 33 coming to Walt Disney World this Fall
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No no! That's not the problem!
It's "uh oh" that he did not realize Epcot is part of Walt Disney World. He said he's visiting "Disney World, Epcot, and Universal."
Not at all. I have problems with using interns to do the jobs experienced professionals should be doing.
GCTales
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And that is how I feel.... While they make moves I, personally disagree with (say.. Killing off the Tiki birds), I also recognize that the management has access to a lot more data and info than I do about the costs to maintain the ride, throughput, and volume level for a particular ride / restaurant.
As to this... I would like to see them call it something other than Club 33. Have it uniquely identified with the park where it is based.. Perhaps membership does not guarantee access to the ones in other parks (or offer recprocity at the 4 WDW clubs and acces to the others around the world with an additional fee). I know one or two CEO who travel on business- frequently to places where there is a Disney park, love Disney, and would probably pay a little extra for guaranteed access (especially if he can use it for taking high level clients to business dinners).
I seriously hope the staffing at the WDW clubs are at the same Lvl /quality as the original... Otherwise I think those that buy in will quickly express their displeasure.
Otterhead
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Absolutely -- as I said in another post, if they call it Club 33 and awkwardly stick it upstairs on Main Street or something, it'll indeed seem like a cheap and obvious cash grab. I'm in favor of a similar sort of private club (though I'm sure I'll never get to go there), but it needs to fit into MK the same way 33 fits into DL. Whether a Colonial-style club somewhere over in Liberty Square, a VIP club actually in an attraction (The Happy Haunts club, upstairs in the HM?), or a new SEA-style Adventurer's Club, the theming will make a lot of difference.
Bocabear
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Oh Please let it be Happy Haunts Club! actually that would be a franchisable idea like the Jeckyl and Hyde Club...
Nemo14
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No, he just likes me.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
My vote is a desperate attempt to pad the bottom line
38053WDW
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The Emporium is under raps again .. hmmmmm... (Since they hope to have it open by Fall)
Otterhead
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Actually that's an interesting thought... if rather than just a Club 33 clone, WDW extends the idea to give members access to a new exclusive club of some sort in each park. MK could have a PotC or HM club, Epcot could easily repurpose one of their existing VIP clubs (is the Siemens club in Spaceship Earth getting any use?), DHS could find space inside the Chinese Theater or ToT (or anywhere along main street), and DAK could do a SEA-inspired Adventurer's Club at Tiffins or Harambe. That'd make a membership fee a lot more attractive.
mickeyfan5534
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How do you expect people to become experienced professionals? Put them under the hyper experienced and amazing hospitality CMs but give the interns a chance to learn in a real high class environment. That's me talking as a hospitality student. I would kill for the opportunity to get experience at a Club 33 type place.
You should probably start them out at the bottom, not the top. CS and non-signature TS are the bottom. V&A, signature TS, and Club 33 would be the top. I'd never put an inexperienced CP in Club 33 -- one big mistake and I've lost a five-figure annual dues payer.
Maybe use CP in Club 33 as bussers on their second semester... but not their first.
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mickeyfan5534
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Absolutely make them prove themselves, but still give the CPs that opportunity. I'd even say to narrow that down to hospitality students because those are the types of places they might end up managing.
Kman101
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I think it's clear they're shoving inexperienced cast members into roles that maybe don't suit them. Hospitality being one of them. It's not always easy and takes a certain kind of person to pull it off. Now that being said they should offer the proper training if someone shows an interest.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Exactly its not that CP'ers should be excluded from this its that they should be lower level staff and CLEARLY identified as an intern, As a high end guest is likely to forgive an interns error and may even give helpful feedback on WHY that was an error because that person is an intern
That said WDW of late has been dropping CP'ers into roles where they have neither training nor natural aptitude for the role simply because they are cheap english speaking labor
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Disney's logic 'as long as there is a wait list losing dues payers is not an issue'
Next Big Thing
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Disney doesn't take into account a CPs major when assigning them roles though so you'll get a bunch of kids that have no experience in the industry doing it.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Yet the 'Going out of Business' vibe has grown stronger every visit to WDW of late
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Disney under Iger is good at extracting short term cash from the efforts of those who went before them and sending money to Wall St.
As to creating long term value not so good. Its why Disney is in the crosshairs of a couple of rumored hostile takeover bids by companies who will break it up and keep the pieces that they want.
Imagine the parks owned by Dalian Wanda group for instance... the hotels by Hilton or Marriott
Good job Iger you get more money than you can ever spend but the rest of us lose a cultural icon