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Daveeeeed

Daveeeeed

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How about theming the park to different ecosystems in a future state. Like an ecosystem/weather park.

The hub could borrow Living With The Land (except far more high-tech).

An underground mining area, a seabase that's apparently underwater, a space station, a weather dome, but with most of these things indoors. It would be an interesting twist and far more possible in a smaller attendance Disney park as the walkways could be mostly indoors.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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David2319 said:
How about theming the park to different ecosystems in a future state. Like an ecosystem/weather park.

The hub could borrow Living With The Land (except far more high-tech).

An underground mining area, a seabase that's apparently underwater, a space station, a weather dome, but with most of these things indoors. It would be an interesting twist and far more possible in a smaller attendance Disney park as the walkways could be mostly indoors.
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So an Epcot-y Animal Kingdom? :geek:
 
Imagineerland

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Voxel said:
HAHA I will say that one attraction had the exact attraction design as @Imagineerland showed in one of his animations. I was going back through my notebook after I saw his video and I was like DANG great minds think a like. LOL
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I saw your sketch back then and was equally surprised at how similar it was! Haha, guess that confirms it might be a good idea. Also have to give credit that it was heavily inspired by the Circumotion Theater by Falcons Creative, which is similar but without the 30 degree pitch.
 
Voxel

Voxel

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Imagineerland said:
I saw your sketch back then and was equally surprised at how similar it was! Haha, guess that confirms it might be a good idea. Also have to give credit that it was heavily inspired by the Circumotion Theater by Falcons Creative, which is similar but without the 30 degree pitch.
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I think it would be an amazing experience esp with how far project technology has come int he last few years. I need to study what Falcons Creative is doing more often.
 
Imagineerland

Imagineerland

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kmbmw777 said:
I like doing this. I know that this is how @Imagineerland decided on the theme for his 3rd gate to Disneyland and it turned out amazing :)
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Yep this is exactly what I did.

I made a long list of both the various IPs that I wanted to include, and the various themed environments that I thought were missing from the resort and should be represented. This was a huge list of both.

Then I stared at that list for a long time to brainstorm relationships to somehow find a park theme and organization. And then that concept for a theme further refined the original list of IPs and locations into a new more condensed list that could become a single logical park.

There's a balance point in the design process between the IPs defining the park and the park defining the IPs. Think at it coming from both at once to hit the sweet spot. It takes time, but having a plan is worth it.


Also, now that I see you are all starting up brainstorming for a next gate, I want to drop in a couple personal strategies I think about when I come up with a park concept. These ideas were less applicable to a Disneyland style park, but now I think they could help. Both are from longer blog posts I wrote last year that I'll link.

1. Parks have a theme and parks have an organization and they are two completely different things. The theme of a park is usually the simple, one phrase description, often a category, the organization is how the category is presented. You can use the difference to your advantage. http://imagineerland.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-meaning-of-disneyland.html

2. Use IPs to benefit and strengthen a land, not to contradict it. My 3 rules for if an IP works in a land: is it popular enough to be worth the massive investment to build, does it match the physical setting of the land, and does it match the character and meaning of the land. If you don't get all three, its going to stick out, and inevitebly break down the theme that you try so hard to create. http://imagineerland.blogspot.com/2016/07/my-rules-for-ips-in-theme-parks-or-why.html


And last point. A bunch of comments have suggested a SEA meets Animal Kingdom meets Disney Sea Park. Uh. Here you go. ;)http://imagineerland.blogspot.com/2017/02/disneylands-third-gate-disneys-worlds.html
 
Daveeeeed

Daveeeeed

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mickeyfan5534 said:
If we're going for something unique, then I'd like to do a SEA park. Something along the lines of Animal Kingdom meets Epcot. I like the ecosystems idea but it doesn't seem super feasible to fit in thousands of people a day into tiny corridors. Maybe we could use the idea as a land in the park as a walkthrough?
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Maybe not necessarily ecosystems.

I was trying to be able to DO the saying "Go and smell the roses" to another extreme. Not by going to a particular place, but by going to a type of place categorized by what's the word... IDK (like space or ocean or underground).

By being able to explore things you could not otherwise. From the mines and caverns of a mountain to the deepest depths of the sea. I'm talking about 6-7 miles deep in the ocean, or the top of Mt. Everest. And this is what a theme park is for: to let you experience something you couldn't otherwise, but in this case not movies but different environments.

Maybe themed to extreme environments?
 
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Daveeeeed

Daveeeeed

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Imagineerland said:
Yep this is exactly what I did.

I made a long list of both the various IPs that I wanted to include, and the various themed environments that I thought were missing from the resort and should be represented. This was a huge list of both.

Then I stared at that list for a long time to brainstorm relationships to somehow find a park theme and organization. And then that concept for a theme further refined the original list of IPs and locations into a new more condensed list that could become a single logical park.

There's a balance point in the design process between the IPs defining the park and the park defining the IPs. Think at it coming from both at once to hit the sweet spot. It takes time, but having a plan is worth it.


Also, now that I see you are all starting up brainstorming for a next gate, I want to drop in a couple personal strategies I think about when I come up with a park concept. These ideas were less applicable to a Disneyland style park, but now I think they could help. Both are from longer blog posts I wrote last year that I'll link.

1. Parks have a theme and parks have an organization and they are two completely different things. The theme of a park is usually the simple, one phrase description, often a category, the organization is how the category is presented. You can use the difference to your advantage. http://imagineerland.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-meaning-of-disneyland.html

2. Use IPs to benefit and strengthen a land, not to contradict it. My 3 rules for if an IP works in a land: is it popular enough to be worth the massive investment to build, does it match the physical setting of the land, and does it match the character and meaning of the land. If you don't get all three, its going to stick out, and inevitebly break down the theme that you try so hard to create. http://imagineerland.blogspot.com/2016/07/my-rules-for-ips-in-theme-parks-or-why.html


And last point. A bunch of comments have suggested a SEA meets Animal Kingdom meets Disney Sea Park. Uh. Here you go. ;)http://imagineerland.blogspot.com/2017/02/disneylands-third-gate-disneys-worlds.html
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I'm a huge fan of your work, but that's not really what I was thinking of.:p
 
spacemt354

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Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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Go figure that I fall asleep and forget to share my idea :banghead:.
The park I came up with shall be known as Disney's Pangaea (tentative name, but I like it).
Picture a world in which the continents never divided, nor did the sea, Sky, or cosmos. That's what Disney's Pangaea is. It is a united World where neither the continents, nor the people are divided, but united in the adventures that they have.
The park would start by guests traveling back in time to the Dinosaur age. S.E.A. tasks guests with an important challenge, to stop the continents from ever separating. This task may be carried out by some active guests in the ride "Countdown to Continental Drift". Others may just want to be more passive and skip to the park. The centrepiece would be a giant It's a Small World palace, in a location called international plaza. I liked figments idea where the centrepiece could be a S.E.A. discovery centre, so maybe we combine the ideas and alter small world in some way.
As for the lands:
Bigger lands include...
-Europe
-North America
-Asia
Smaller Lands Include...
-South America
-Africa
-Australia
-Antarctica
For these, think Disney IP combined with real world culture.
But those are just the continents. There will also be Lands based on sea, the Galaxy, and maybe even sky. The sea would have stuff like Nemo, 20k Leagues, Atlantis, Mermaid,etc. The Galaxy would have stuff like Star Wars, Guardians, and maybe some vintage futuristic Tomorrowland stuff (like space base delta).
The park would have a circular design.
 

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