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spacemt354

Chili's
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@Brer Oswald and anyone else if you want to review this -- this is the rough draft I have so far of the Haunted Mansion:bookworm:

Here's a rough blueprint of the scenes in the ride.

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Instead of the foyer scene being the pre-show -- similar to Tower of Terror, I'd have it be in the Library (well stocked with priceless first editions)

I always want to look at the detail of the library on the ride, but never get the opportunity because you go by it so fast. If the library was the pre-show then you'd be able to walk around, maybe even interact with the environment too!

Then we go to the load of the doom buggies.

Next is the Foyer (except more grand than in the WDW version. This foyer will start the attraction off with a bang, and have several ghostly effects in it as well. The paintings where the eyes move, lightning strikes and the pictures change, stuff like that.

As we approach the winding staircase. Instead of going up on a 45 degree angle, in this we will spin around a spiral staircase, marveling at their design and the scenery around it. You can hear the dog howling in the distance, as the doom buggy makes its way up to the endless hallway (this is one of the best illusions in all of WDW parks...so i'm keeping it verbatim.

Next we continue this action packed version of the haunted mansion, straight into the ballroom scene, as it will be described in the library that the reason you are here is for a swinging wake (riders who are informed of the backstory can assume it is George's wife's wake) -- so this way there is no need for leota to bring the spirits in for a wake first. However leota will have a role to play later on.

After the ballroom scene, you enter the game room, which based on the more elaborate backstory I say, will be the place where George was killed by his wife. While there won't be any morbidity or anything like that, the game room will have moving chess pieces by themselves, the piano playing in the background, and other ghostly illusions -- in particular George Bluebeard in the transition to his room.

In this room he calls upon Leota to bring his old wife here for a forgiveness of sorts. Inisde George's sprawling room, you hear the creeks on the floor of this old mansion, and go through his bedroom that is filled with dusty knickknacks.

You then transition into the seance room where Leota brings Lucretia from the other side into the Mansion, through her rhymes and riddles, you see Lucretia appear.

The next scene depicts the attic, which is even more dusty than George's room. In the attic there is an organ player who is playing Grim Grinning Ghosts, and you see Lucretia appear in ghost form next to your vehicle as you get tossed out the window.

You fall out of the window and into the graveyard where you can now see the ghosts (maybe that is because you are one?) and the graveyard and indoor cemetery scenes act as the climax of the attraction, before the hitch-hiking ghosts scene and the unload.

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Very rough draft -- and I'm still working out the kinks...if anyone has any suggestions please feel free. My only thing is I don't want the attic to graveyard transition -- as that feels too similar to the WDW original version. But I couldn't think of anything else at the moment and just wanted to get this out for now!

Thanks!
 

Brer Oswald

Well-Known Member
It seems critics are criticizing the film for not doing anything new and are calling the film unnecessary. OF COURSE IT'S UNECESSERY! It's a live action remake of a Disney film! What I've been saying from the beginning of this remake spree was that the purpose of these remakes was to bring attention to old films and to act as fan service to the fans of the original film. That's what it should be, it should not be trying to rewrite history and ruin the story of the original. I may have had a different tone if it weren't for the Alice remake, but now that THAT is the one everyone thinks about, I wish it was just a direct copy of the 1951 movie. The live action Jungle Book, as great as it was, frustrated me because of it's deviations from the original. When Peter Pan gets its live action remake further down the road, I would hope that it retains almost all of the scenes from the original movie, all of the songs, and maybe a few additional scenes from the original book. Call me a purist, but I am. Sorry everyone, rant is over :D:p!
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
It seems critics are criticizing the film for not doing anything new and are calling the film unnecessary. OF COURSE IT'S UNECESSERY! It's a live action remake of a Disney film! What I've been saying from the beginning of this remake spree was that the purpose of these remakes was to bring attention to old films and to act as fan service to the fans of the original film. That's what it should be, it should not be trying to rewrite history and ruin the story of the original. I may have had a different tone if it weren't for the Alice remake, but now that THAT is the one everyone thinks about, I wish it was just a direct copy of the 1951 movie. The live action Jungle Book, as great as it was, frustrated me because of it's deviations from the original. When Peter Pan gets its live action remake further down the road, I would hope that it retains almost all of the scenes from the original movie, all of the songs, and maybe a few additional scenes from the original book. Call me a purist, but I am. Sorry everyone, rant is over :D:p!
This might sound silly...but is "any" movie really necessary?

Cinema is a form of entertainment -- none of it is necessary to our daily lives, but it's something we enjoy and I guarantee this film will make a ton of money and isn't the first film to be remade. I haven't seen the movie, but if they stayed true to the original tale, isn't that like the definition of a "re-make"?:p I don't know what they expected.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
It seems critics are criticizing the film for not doing anything new and are calling the film unnecessary. OF COURSE IT'S UNECESSERY! It's a live action remake of a Disney film! What I've been saying from the beginning of this remake spree was that the purpose of these remakes was to bring attention to old films and to act as fan service to the fans of the original film. That's what it should be, it should not be trying to rewrite history and ruin the story of the original. I may have had a different tone if it weren't for the Alice remake, but now that THAT is the one everyone thinks about, I wish it was just a direct copy of the 1951 movie. The live action Jungle Book, as great as it was, frustrated me because of it's deviations from the original. When Peter Pan gets its live action remake further down the road, I would hope that it retains almost all of the scenes from the original movie, all of the songs, and maybe a few additional scenes from the original book. Call me a purist, but I am. Sorry everyone, rant is over :D:p!
It reminds me of this scene from Arrested Development:joyfull:

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Brer Oswald

Well-Known Member
This might sound silly...but is "any" movie really necessary?

Cinema is a form of entertainment -- none of it is necessary to our daily lives, but it's something we enjoy and I guarantee this film will make a ton of money and isn't the first film to be remade. I haven't seen the movie, but if they stayed true to the original tale, isn't that like the definition of a "re-make"?:p I don't know what they expected.
EXACTLY! It's pretty much just the movie reimagined with new visuals, which is what it should be. If I had to criticize a few things, it would be that they tried to add an "unnecessary" sub plot, about it never got in the way. Also, things seemed to move fast b'w Belle and the Beast, but it's a Disney movie, what more should anyone expect?
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
EXACTLY! It's pretty much just the movie reimagined with new visuals, which is what it should be. If I had to criticize a few things, it would be that they tried to add an "unnecessary" sub plot, about it never got in the way. Also, things seemed to move fast b'w Belle and the Beast, but it's a Disney movie, what more should anyone expect?
I agree! Diverting too much is a risk, especially with a beloved classic like Beauty and the Beast. People going to see it are fans of the original and are going to see it because they liked the animated one.

And people who have never seen it before, I'd want to see something close to the original so maybe I'd get the same attachment as the people who grew up with the animated version. :bookworm:
 

Brer Oswald

Well-Known Member
I agree! Diverting too much is a risk, especially with a beloved classic like Beauty and the Beast. People going to see it are fans of the original and are going to see it because they liked the animated one.

And people who have never seen it before, I'd want to see something close to the original so maybe I'd get the same attachment as the people who grew up with the animated version. :bookworm:
People just aren't ever satisfied. They want the remakes to not divert, but when they are similar, that complain that it is too much the same. As a Disney fan, I want it to be the same. It's not a sequel, it's a remake. What if this movie was completely different, but was still popular? Then fans would be upset that when everyone heard BatB, they thought of the new story instead of the old one. I know I'd be upset.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
People just aren't ever satisfied. They want the remakes to not divert, but when they are similar, that complain that it is too much the same. As a Disney fan, I want it to be the same. It's not a sequel, it's a remake. What if this movie was completely different, but was still popular? Then fans would be upset that when everyone heard BatB, they thought of the new story instead of the old one. I know I'd be upset.
Yeah I agree -- it'll be interesting when Lion King comes out -- I wonder how close they will keep it.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
I like it except it messes with the continuity of the ride.

You never see a single ghost until after Madame Leota summons the spirits. Here her purpose is nonexistent.
Well it's not supposed to be a carbon copy of the ride -- I explained (maybe not enough haha) that in this Leota's role would be different and the flow of the ride is different on purpose. Her purpose here is summoning the spirit of Lucreita for her own swinging wake.
 

Daveeeeed

Well-Known Member
Well it's not supposed to be a carbon copy of the ride -- I explained (maybe not enough haha) that in this Leota's role would be different and the flow of the ride is different on purpose. Her purpose here is summoning the spirit of Lucreita for her own swinging wake.
How did I miss this?:confused::hilarious: "In this room he calls upon Leota to bring his old wife here for a forgiveness of sorts. Inside George's sprawling room, you hear the creeks on the floor of this old mansion, and go through his bedroom that is filled with dusty knickknacks."
 

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