erasure fan1
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Yep, because they take 12yrs to accomplish anything. Lol
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Disney makes products for consumers. They either make a product that we like and choose to consume...or they make a product that we have no interest in buying. It's just simple business.
Disney has ZERO "obligation" to be "loyal" to their customers. We, in turn, we have ZERO "obligation" or pressure to be "loyal" to Disney either!
We and Disney have a 100% BUSINESS relationship. They make products we want to buy...or they don't. That's ALL it really is!
Disney is no different than Ford, Apple, Coca Cola, Sony, Bank of America or McDonalds...etc.
Every company must make products that we "WANT" to buy....but there seems to be people out there that feel we NEED to support or consume Disney products in order to be "loyal" to the company. And...if you dont like it, you are somehow a "bad" person. It's ridiculas.
I think that too many people forget that our relationship with Disney is strictly a "business" relationship and nothing more. It's no different than our relationship with ANY other company's products that we consume everyday.
Disney is not a "church" or a "religion" or "cult". Disney is just a "business" that makes products for the consumer mass market.
Let's all not pretend that it is something more than just that.
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Where I grew up?...I saw nobody that looked like me ANYWHERE. (Almost)
My point is...I know exactly what it feels like to be a minority and I LEARNED how to deal with it. Being surronded by a culture that I did not understand and being the only "white kid" anywhere in town?....tought me how to be confident. It tought me how to learn from my surroundings and adapt to other people and learn how to make new friends with them.
Again...you see "white male" and you immediately stereotype me and you drop me into a box that you mentally created for all "white males".
I suspect that "you" are literally guilty of doing the SAME thing that you accuse others of doing.
They got a word for that. It's called being "toxic"....
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BlakeW39
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that, and the fact that they have no real desire for change.
I mean what are our major issues with how Disney handles the parks? Sure there's Genie+ and park reservations, and how difficult they've made it to plan Disney vacations. But that's all new stuff. It might get better over time depending on how attendance/revenue reacts in the next couple years.
But the deeper issues that have been in place for years? I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's two things: for one, the general decline in product quality, i.e. attractions having broken or cut effects, lack of a nighttime/street entertainment, defunct attractions, cut benefits like magical express, etc. And secondly there are the creative issues with how Disney handles the parks, especially the IP mandate.
NEITHER of those things are going to change. No matter how much anyone hopes they do
Magic Crush Drop
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Sounds like a job resignation from Linkedin with the grandstanding and all.
Magic Crush Drop
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I think a lot of people in the Disney Fandom have this pressure to buy stuff (even tho it's half baked) just to support their favorite Disney tentacle. I saw this with Elemental where people were begging people to go watch it even though the commercials didn't make a compelling reason to see it theaters.
Honestly believe most of Disney's problem is oversatuation (making it hard to discern what is actually good or half baked).
Reminds me of that one lady that Twitter made an example out of last summer.
BlakeW39
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lol grandstanding? I mean I'm just being honest.
Magic Crush Drop
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I mean, I was honest with my assessment.
BlakeW39
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lol, you were incorrect with it though
no grandstanding going on. I just keep hearing how I'm supposed to want a "better Disney," which is nice, but 100% a pipe dream.
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Model3 McQueen
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I didn't read the conversation prior to your post, but hopefully this qualifies as an add-on to your quote.
The problem is they've lost their core model. People who follow the Apple or Tesla or Microsoft culture don't just see the business, they see something so much better. The consumer used to see Disney as real magic, a real entertainment getaway, a place to forget your worries. The feeling is mostly gone for a lot of people and now suddenly you have a business that has outright become less consumer-friendly and more blatant in their advertising at the cost of thematic integrity and originality, part of Disney's core model.
Very true.
For a long time, Disney was something you "loved"...and you felt that it "loved" you back in return. For many people, Disney wasn't a "business" relationship. It was like an actual, perdonal "friendship" relationship. And...if the company did something you didbt like?...or you felt that it didnt include you properly?...you felt betrayed by a trusted "friend"!!!
It's a crazy psychological dynamic. It's very strange how the human brain can latch on to some logos and not others. You and I would never feel this way about McDonalds or Hewlet Packard or Toyota or United Airlines.
Yep....Disney relies HEAVILY on that pshchological "love" and "loyalty" to it's logo. It must try as hard as it can to keep the cover over the fact that it's just a profit/loss business just like any other big company. We can like or dislike the products they make...but diving into Disney with "love" and deep emotional investment is NOT a psychologically healthy or realistic thing for any of us.
Tha Realest
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Disney caught by surprise by the return of activist investor Nelson Peltz: Source
Disney finds itself in the crosshairs of activist investor Nelson Peltz yet again, according to a source.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Disney caught by surprise by the return of activist investor Nelson Peltz: Source
Disney finds itself in the crosshairs of activist investor Nelson Peltz yet again, according to a source.finance.yahoo.com
…very shocking
Tha Realest
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His return shouldn’t have been a surprise. But it seems like it was to Iger and co…
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Very…very…shocking
It’s almost like all their business is in the tank and the only people that Don’t realize are people on forums getting excited about buying genie and the dining plan?
Disney caught by surprise by the return of activist investor Nelson Peltz: Source
Disney finds itself in the crosshairs of activist investor Nelson Peltz yet again, according to a source.
Other fears include Disney potentially overpaying to buy out its stake in Hulu from Comcast — discussions between the two parties have reportedly begun.
How can one overpay for an asset when there are independent auditors valuating it?
Yahoo finance is an ignorant joke.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
“You say $9…I say $30”
- smart guy to dumb Napoleon guy
That’s how that would potentially work.
Not like it never happens.
1. Bob can’t admit the streams aren’t worth much
2. Bob doesn’t think the streams are worth much
3. Egos are wildcards…like Elon bought Twitter for 3x what it was worth on a dare
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I also noticed that line.
It's $9 billion, minimum, per the 2019 agreement. It could be more, and we all know Comcast wants it to be more, but it won't be less.