TikibirdLand
Active Member
uh, not even close. Have you had a chance to drive a Model 3? Last gen Bolt was closer to the Chevy Spark, size-wise
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News Chevrolet is teaming up with Walt Disney World to reveal the all-electric Chevrolet Bolt EUV and Bolt EV
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the.dreamfinder
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They snuck Figment in!
flynnibus
Premium Member
My driving experience doesn’t matter - thats what the marget segment is.
And yes i have driven the car. They are plentiful around me. Even my most immediate circle of friends has two Ss, a 3 perf, a Y, and X. And three of them have CTs on order too.
I also just bought a ford fusuion at a great price... because ford killed all their non compact cars. I also bought a F250 for trailering horses. Its been a busy car quarter here
Brer Panther
Well-Known Member
Personally, I love the fact that Figment makes a cameo.
DCLcruiser
Well-Known Member
Bolt EV is called a Crossover by Chevy. It has roof rails and...beats me. It’s a hatch in my book.
2017 Chevrolet Bolt EV Sets Benchmark for EV Design
2019 Chevrolet Bolt EV electric Vehicle
media.chevrolet.com
PS I had a Model 3 and now a Model Y.
Cmdr_Crimson
Well-Known Member
Figment being in there and using a Billy Barty laugh soundbite when he Flys by....
Well, keep in mind that at 30k starting price, in many states after incentives the end cost can be under 10k.
flynnibus
Premium Member
You do know that even a Honda Civic starts at a higher cost than that right?
Under 20k is the land of sub-compact cars. And the US market has repeatedly rejected 'specialized' city type cars... especially for alt fuels. This is why you see GM/etc trying to make EVs in the popular SUV/truck segments.
flynnibus
Premium Member
What incentives would you be referring to that are getting people 20k?
The most state one I am aware of is 5k... and the federal credit is phasing out for many vendors (or gone entirely - including GM)
Federal Tax Credits for Electric and Plug-in Hybrid Cars
Save up to $7,500 on qualifying vehicles!
www.fueleconomy.gov
DCLcruiser
Well-Known Member
It might be extended. There is a Bill for another 600,000 cars w/ $7,000 credit.What incentives would you be referring to that are getting people 20k?
The most state one I am aware of is 5k... and the federal credit is phasing out for many vendors (or gone entirely - including GM)
Federal Tax Credits for Electric and Plug-in Hybrid Cars
Save up to $7,500 on qualifying vehicles!
helenabear
Well-Known Member
I'd edit that to some states. Many do not. My state personally sucks and unless a new deal can be made for EVs, no federal break at this time. This is why Chevy slashed the Bolt price. Still a bit pricey but I'm sure the EV market will get there.
wbostic12
Active Member
- In the Parks
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I don't know, the same queue of model cars from 2012 excites me like none other!
DisneyCane
Well-Known Member
You are paying for the batteries. The Mustang Mach e is $5k for 80 miles additional range. Even if that is marked up more than 100%, it's still over $2k cost to Ford.
You've got to think in terms that you are pre-paying for a portion of the fuel. The electric charging over the life of the vehicle will cost significantly less than gas for the life of a similar vehicle. That doesn't come for free. Instead of a cheap fuel tank to store energy you now have an expensive battery pack.
Past a certain amount of driving, you will end up paying less overall with an electric vehicle.
I think they are going after the SUV and Truck segments because the additional cost of the batteries is a much lower percentage of the typical costs in those segments. Also, the efficiency increase of those size vehicles is a lot more.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I think you need to look at the car sales in America to understand why they are focusing where they are... because you will find its not just EVs doing this.
DisneyCane
Well-Known Member
I understand that and it's also why those segments are the most profitable. They are in demand and people pay a premium for them.
Ford basically stopped making cars (except the Mustang) because they aren't nearly as profitable.
kurtk
Well-Known Member
I feel really silly. Where exactly is he?
flynnibus
Premium Member
It was a decision lead by sales... not margins. Don't confuse the old 'they prefer to sell more trucks...' scenario of the past with what has been happening lately. Americans have been abandoning the full and midsize sedans for other styles.
I've Come to See the Conventional Sedan as an Anachronism
Sedans will have to offer something special to survive in a world determined to marginalize them.
www.caranddriver.com
Ford car sales were dropping over 20%.