I would ask about refund and return policy prior to purchasing.
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Chapek's comments - he doesn't want anyone on this board at WDW any more
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Jrb1979
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We should do that at Disney too with all the issues with rides breaking down and effects not working.
Goofyernmost
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Stop defining luxury items as something that is exclusive to wealthy people. Toilets were luxury items but cover every level of culture. Luxury is, like I said anything that you can afford after all your necessities have been provided or in todays world that or whatever your credit card will have room for.
GimpYancIent
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Disney customer services would refer you to the Disney legal department. There are disclaimers (in fine print) for public consumption prior to committing.
Goofyernmost
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True, but regardless of whatever partnering they established, one has to have the available funds over and above their individual living needs before any of it matters.,
Jrb1979
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Fine but the point is Disney was created for the middle class. Now they are trying to go after the upper class that has no interest in what they are selling.
Goofyernmost
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That is correct, they were not established to cater to the wealthy, however that doesn't mean that they aren't being run that way now. It's that thing that isn't talked about.
Jrb1979
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It's not going to work. All it's doing is making the people that love your product upset and leave.
GimpYancIent
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Yes. The strata of people B.C. and Co think they are appealing to actually see Disney as a simpleton's entertainment, a brief distraction. There are more enjoyable destination vacations of greater interest for the lofty.
Goofyernmost
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Believe me, I am living comfortably but they sure as hell are not gearing it to me. I always loved WDW and spent most of the last 40 years just daydreaming about my next trip. That desire hasn't changed, however, what has changed is people like myself no longer feel that the value supports the cost and increased hassle factor of that experience makes it no longer worth spending money that I might need later. The very wealthy can, but most will lose interest quickly.
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Complain enough at guest relations and see what they can comp you with.
That’s your assumption. There is a luxury market that businesses want a piece of. That’s what I was trying to say.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’m not as wise as you, Yoda…but I’ve definitely been around long enough to be on the Jedi council
And I’m with you…I don’t hate it…I still want it…but the appeal is dropping consistently…
It’s not that I mind paying a “premium” for that product. Always did and would…I just don’t like the feeling they’re constantly “searching for the boundaries” with me and Everyone else.
And before anyone goes Econ 1 (incorrectly) and says “it’s a business…they always did that”…
They did not. That wasn’t the management philosophy. And that philosophy did and could still work. It’s choices and tradeoffs.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s not on Peter Pan or in the American adventure.
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Floydian
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I'm not surprised, or all that upset, that prices keep going up so much, and I'm broke. It's been 35 years, but I still remember Econ 101. My problem is that Disney and Chapek are pushing the wrong side of the equation.
They seem to be trying to lower demand by increasing costs and frustrations, and lowering offerings and quality. Instead they should be trying to increase supply by building a fifth park, or an entire third resort for the US market. Maybe call it Disneyland+.
They seem to be trying to lower demand by increasing costs and frustrations, and lowering offerings and quality. Instead they should be trying to increase supply by building a fifth park, or an entire third resort for the US market. Maybe call it Disneyland+.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The problem is the computers that trade the stocks, the brokers and banks that bend them to make more money each day, the Disney board and management are of a different mindset now and what you point out may not matter
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When you price "families like mine" that seek value in passes, guess what we do? We find value in other activities. Our kids enjoy going to Disney, but our kids don't ASK to go to Disney.
For "families like mine," a pass wouldn't mean we'd be there constantly, but we'd visit more often. I can't recall ever being in the park and not spending hundreds of dollars. Seems like that's pretty nice to have...
Oh well
For "families like mine," a pass wouldn't mean we'd be there constantly, but we'd visit more often. I can't recall ever being in the park and not spending hundreds of dollars. Seems like that's pretty nice to have...
Oh well
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’d love to agree with you here…but building extra parks in the traditional sense in the US would be a terrible business move. But that’s due to society factors/hurdles more than anything.
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Goofyernmost
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I never said there wasn't a desire for that market, but, is that a sustainable market. That is the part that is unknown right now. Will it end up being an influx of profit only to fizzle out in the future. Only time will tell, but I don't think it can be ruled out.
flynnibus
Premium Member
They aren't truly trying to lower demand - that's just lip service to the public. They know they are capitalizing on higher yield customers and pushing prices up because the market is willing to pay it. A drop in demand is just a happy byproduct.. because they are counting on higher margins and revenues anyway.
They are just for the first time showing their true MBA styles to the media and talking about it directly instead of hiding behind fluffy nebulous phrases. Basically, they are stepping out from behind the curtain and being aggressive about it.