News Chapek FIRED, Iger New CEO

VJ

VJ

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Unbanshee said:
I think we can evolve. D'Amaro is head of parks now, he should take the heat for the parks (that he's in charge of...which is all of them...because he's chairman).

I understood the Chapek hate when he was head of the parks we love, but now we can hate him for screwing up marvel contracts and such

We certainly shouldn't hate Chapek when the goal of the unscrupulous article was to get people to hate him over unsubstantiated claims of personal hatred. That does LITERALLY NOTHING except stroke the ego of a blogger
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Why don't we hate both? D'Amaro is just as bad anyway, he's just better at hiding it.
 
jaxonp

jaxonp

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Unbanshee said:
I think we can evolve. D'Amaro is head of parks now, he should take the heat for the parks (that he's in charge of...which is all of them...because he's chairman).

I understood the Chapek hate when he was head of the parks we love, but now we can hate him for screwing up marvel contracts and such

We certainly shouldn't hate Chapek when the goal of the unscrupulous article was to get people to hate him over unsubstantiated claims of personal hatred. That does LITERALLY NOTHING except stroke the ego of a blogger
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now I hate him even more.
VJ said:
Why don't we hate both? D'Amaro is just as bad anyway, he's just better at hiding it.
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Disagree. Josh is a good guy under a dictator. He’s biding his time
 
brb1006

brb1006

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VJ said:
If he's pretending to only care about money and "leveraging the brand" in order to make Chapek happy, he's doing a very good job of it.
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castlecake2.0 said:
Exactly. People need to wake up and acknowledge this .
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Strongly agree, unlike this lady. :rolleyes:
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MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
VJ said:
Why don't we hate both? D'Amaro is just as bad anyway, he's just better at hiding it.
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Please cite your source that Josh totally, on his own, and not because he's being paid to do a job is:
  • onboard with IP everywhere all the time;
  • OK with nickel and diming guests;
  • and OK with diminished offerings.
For extra credit, please explain what someone in his position, if he didn't like the CEO's mandates, could do to countermand the CEO's policy without getting fired.
 
SoFloMagic

SoFloMagic

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MisterPenguin said:
Please cite your source that Josh totally, on his own, and not because he's being paid to do a job is:
  • onboard with IP everywhere all the time;
  • OK with nickel and diming guests;
  • and OK with diminished offerings.
For extra credit, please explain what someone in his position, if he didn't like the CEO's mandates, could do to countermand the CEO's policy without getting fired.
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Yep. He's always been focused on the cast members. I'd imagine he feels he can move the needle and support CMs in his role, but has to fall in line with the initiatives presented to him as well. That doesn't make him a bad person.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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MisterPenguin said:
Please cite your source that Josh totally, on his own, and not because he's being paid to do a job is:
  • onboard with IP everywhere all the time;
  • OK with nickel and diming guests;
  • and OK with diminished offerings.
For extra credit, please explain what someone in his position, if he didn't like the CEO's mandates, could do to countermand the CEO's policy without getting fired.
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Stop bringing logic to the table. Some people just want to rant and rave and foam about anything and everything.
 
Creathir

Creathir

Premium Member
MisterPenguin said:
Please cite your source that Josh totally, on his own, and not because he's being paid to do a job is:
  • onboard with IP everywhere all the time;
  • OK with nickel and diming guests;
  • and OK with diminished offerings.
For extra credit, please explain what someone in his position, if he didn't like the CEO's mandates, could do to countermand the CEO's policy without getting fired.
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While I agree with this premise, the same must equally be true for Chapek as well.
Meaning, Iger too was just as bad.
 
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Unbanshee

Well-Known Member
jaxonp said:
Disagree. Josh is a good guy under a dictator. He’s biding his time
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Lol, do you still have the shirt you wore on October 1 to Magic Kingdom?

SoFloMagic said:
Yep. He's always been focused on the cast members. I'd imagine he feels he can move the needle and support CMs in his role, but has to fall in line with the initiatives presented to him as well. That doesn't make him a bad person.
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I don't think he's a bad person, but it was D'Amaro that ultimately made the call on Cast layoffs. He did manage some crocodile tears at Downtown Disney while handing out the pink slips, so that's a good thing, I guess.

At the end of the day, either he's a completely ineffective and unnecessary executive that is in lockstep with Chapek, or the park decisions that are being made are *GASP* actually his ideas

There are no saviors in executive leadership right now, despite our hopes and Bald Man Bad petitions
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
creathir said:
While I agree with this premise, the same must equally be true for Chapek as well.
Meaning, Iger too was just as bad.
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The difference with Chapek is that he's now in a position to speak his mind and the big decisions are under his rule and watch. So, the things we all hate are in his lap. Those under him, might agree with what he's doing, or, they might not -- we don't know. As employees who wish to retain their jobs, they do what he says in either case and don't publicly disagree with their boss.
 
SoFloMagic

SoFloMagic

Well-Known Member
Unbanshee said:
Lol, do you still have the shirt you wore on October 1 to Magic Kingdom?



I don't think he's a bad person, but it was D'Amaro that ultimately made the call on Cast layoffs. He did manage some crocodile tears at Downtown Disney while handing out the pink slips, so that's a good thing, I guess.

At the end of the day, either he's a completely ineffective and unnecessary executive that is in lockstep with Chapek, or the park decisions that are being made are *GASP* actually his ideas

There are no saviors in executive leadership right now, despite our hopes and Bald Man Bad petitions
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Either way, the decisions that group is making are anti-customer. They're making it harder to want to give them my money. That used to be the opposite of their job. It was two steps - 1) make customer happy 2) get money
Unfortunately they figured out that they can make shareholders happier by rewriting: 1) get money 2) cut costs to get more money.

It's short-sighted and you'll never be able to maintain the pace of growth made from cuts. Whereas building growth through loyalty can reap rewards. Until you get too greedy. I saw a plastic Starbucks tumbler in the parks yesterday for $49.99. I think we've passed the point of no return.
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
SoFloMagic said:
Either way, the decisions that group is making are anti-customer. They're making it harder to want to give them my money. That used to be the opposite of their job. It was two steps - 1) make customer happy 2) get money
Unfortunately they figured out that they can make shareholders happier by rewriting: 1) get money 2) cut costs to get more money.

It's short-sighted and you'll never be able to maintain the pace of growth made from cuts. Whereas building growth through loyalty can reap rewards. Until you get too greedy. I saw a plastic Starbucks tumbler in the parks yesterday for $49.99. I think we've passed the point of no return.
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Except for the flocks of consumers who will run each other over to get that insipid Starbucks tumbler. And the eBay trolls who buy up gobs of merch to resell and Disney pretends to care but in all honesty doesn’t really give a whit about it because they are making money.

Vote with your wallet, it’s the only thing that matters anymore.
 

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