Changes at WDW due to alligator attack (dedicated thread)

jakeman

jakeman

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Goofyernmost said:
Since the whole thing is primarily a swamp, I suspect that every waterway is connected one way or the other, but, since Gators have legs and can walk wherever they want too, I'd say waterways are just more like a Gator Interstate Highway.
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If we are going to split that hair and include swampy areas then we could probably make it all the way down to Key West.

Gators are all over the place. The signs probably could be themed.

However, the cornerstone of @ford91exploder's argument is that they should be themed because Shades of Greens are themed and they are on the "same body of water". That is not correct as far as we can tell. Shades of Green is not located on the Seven Seas Lagoon, nor Bay Lake, nor is it connected by an obvious canal. There may be some sort of drainage pipe under Floridian Way that a gator can shimmy through, but there is no meaningful connection that would lead any reasonable person to believe that the retention ponds and canals around Shades of Green are an extension of the Seven Seas Lagoon.
 
RainbowCrow

RainbowCrow

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So happy to see Louis returned to the castle show. I was concerned they would go overboard and remove all references to crocs and gators (as rumored). We were there for 10 days shortly after "the incident" and I kept watching croc and gator themed installations to see what would happen. This seems appropriate.
 
JohnD

JohnD

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ford91exploder said:
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Classy sign. Where is it?
 
jlsHouston

jlsHouston

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Kylo Ken said:
Saw this on another site....I understand being cautious but this is getting a little ridiculous. Besides, it's only a matter of time before someone does something stupid and blames "the lack of signs" anyway. Thoughts?
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My thought? It's missing the warning about the flesh eating bacteria.
I'm glad for signs. I'm not like the OP's that post they've swam in Seven Seas Lagoon since they were kids and have no qualms about their children wading or swimming in the bodies of water at WDW. From almost the very start of our visits to WDW with my grandkids I pounded in their heads, stay away and out of that water, it's nasty.
Further while I agree it's rare for a gator to attack, it happens and the last place it needs to occur is at WDW because guests NOT from the south are not educated or warned about the wildlife they may encounter while on property.
The posted no swimming signs on WDW's beaches have always been woeful inadequate warnings. The fencing is appropriate. Beach monitoring at dusk or closure to be safe is also appropriate. The signs, well it's about time. Eliminating the statues and other gator references, one can argue taste or respect but that's just fluff. Not going prevent an injury or save a life. And I join you in that minority @ratherbeinwdw
I totally got off the thread topic, sorry...
 
Pirate Magic

Pirate Magic

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Sorry, we are from the North (New York) and we have been going to WDW for almost 15 years and we know not to go into any body of water other than the pool because there could be gators in the water. In these days of the computer and Internet people should be aware of there surroundings. We have watched the gator boys on tv.
 
networkpro

networkpro

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jakeman said:
If we are going to split that hair and include swampy areas then we could probably make it all the way down to Key West.

Gators are all over the place. The signs probably could be themed.

However, the cornerstone of @ford91exploder's argument is that they should be themed because Shades of Greens are themed and they are on the "same body of water". That is not correct as far as we can tell. Shades of Green is not located on the Seven Seas Lagoon, nor Bay Lake, nor is it connected by an obvious canal. There may be some sort of drainage pipe under Floridian Way that a gator can shimmy through, but there is no meaningful connection that would lead any reasonable person to believe that the retention ponds and canals around Shades of Green are an extension of the Seven Seas Lagoon.
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You don't look much to the west traveling the monorail do you ? The canal on the northwest corner of the Seven Sea Lagoon goes behind Shades of Green. I wouldn't expect you to know that unless you've played the course or have walked the grounds of Shades. There are gator hazard signs all over the place at the resort and on the courses, have been for a at least 14 years that I can remember.

You do know that that can walk across pavement and even run.
 
munchiezxx

munchiezxx

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I feel like the gator should have permanently been taken out of the water pageant as that was the site of the event and all. But I guess not.
 
Kylo Ken

Kylo Ken

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I don't even think Disney knows what they want to do with gator or croc imagery. This weekend, the electrical water pageant brought back the gator. No one batted an eye. People enjoyed watching it. But At the same time, the skipper we had on JC tried to divert our attention from Ginger and the other gator. Living with the Land removed their gators which I feel is ridiculous. Where does it end? No matter what Disney does, people aren't going to be happy.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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jakeman said:
If we are going to split that hair and include swampy areas then we could probably make it all the way down to Key West.

Gators are all over the place. The signs probably could be themed.

However, the cornerstone of @ford91exploder's argument is that they should be themed because Shades of Greens are themed and they are on the "same body of water". That is not correct as far as we can tell. Shades of Green is not located on the Seven Seas Lagoon, nor Bay Lake, nor is it connected by an obvious canal. There may be some sort of drainage pipe under Floridian Way that a gator can shimmy through, but there is no meaningful connection that would lead any reasonable person to believe that the retention ponds and canals around Shades of Green are an extension of the Seven Seas Lagoon.
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I'm not going to argue the point, but, as far as I know all the water in the developed areas of WDW are connected. They would almost have to be in order to maintain drainage and balance to the water control systems in the resort. And like I said before... alligators do not need water to get from one place to another. They are perfectly capable of crossing land.
Pirate Magic said:
Sorry, we are from the North (New York) and we have been going to WDW for almost 15 years and we know not to go into any body of water other than the pool because there could be gators in the water. In these days of the computer and Internet people should be aware of there surroundings. We have watched the gator boys on tv.
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One doesn't have to have a computer to know that, all they have to do is occasionally pay attention to the outside world that isn't necessarily showing up on their SmartPhone screen. The first time I traveled from upper, upper New York State to Florida was in 1962 and I knew about alligators, snakes and other critters in Florida. There were no such things as computers or anything other the old dial phones. And I was only 14 or so.
 
Pirate Magic

Pirate Magic

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Goofyernmost said:
I'm not going to argue the point, but, as far as I know all the water in the developed areas of WDW are connected. They would almost have to be in order to maintain drainage and balance to the water control systems in the resort. And like I said before... alligators do not need water to get from one place to another. They are perfectly capable of crossing land.

One doesn't have to have a computer to know that, all they have to do is occasionally pay attention to the outside world that isn't necessarily showing up on their SmartPhone screen. The first time I traveled from upper, upper New York State to Florida was in 1962 and I knew about alligators, snakes and other critters in Florida. There were no such things as computers or anything other the old dial phones. And I was only 14 or so.
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I agree with all the way. I was just using the computer and Internet as a example, like I said before we should be aware of our surroundings .
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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Goofyernmost said:
One doesn't have to have a computer to know that, all they have to do is occasionally pay attention to the outside world that isn't necessarily showing up on their SmartPhone screen. The first time I traveled from upper, upper New York State to Florida was in 1962 and I knew about alligators, snakes and other critters in Florida. There were no such things as computers or anything other the old dial phones. And I was only 14 or so.
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True, BUT you're ignoring the fact that at that point in history, the Educational Short Film Industry was at it's peak of power, using it's iron fist to teach young and old alike about posture, the benefits of auto manufacturing, and other assorted topics.
 

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