Castle Dream Lights Inexplicably Ended 12/31/10?

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ToTBellHop

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So just got back from my WDW vacation, and one of the reasons we decided to arrive on 1/1/11 and deal with heavy crowds (by the way, it was surprisingly busy all week) was for the Castle Dream Lights, which I have never seen and which were officially announced as being lit thru 1/3/11 (see here http://www.wdwnews.com/ViewPressRelease.aspx?PressReleaseID=115273). Imagine my shock when my wife and I arrive on 1/2/11 and they are not lighting the Dream Lights! I ask several Cast Members when the lights will be lit, and they all respond with "they aren't on yet?" to which I respond "no." I then go to Guest Relations to inquire, and after about 20 minutes of the CM conducting "research", he states that the lights will not be on, that the ended on 12/31/10, and that I was clearly wrong and he could not find "any announcement" that the lights were still meant to be on (again, view the website above--I wish I had brought a print-out!). He then lectured me on other holiday offerings though I was quite aware of the parade at AK. I even went to far as to show him the park map they were handing out that night, which shows the Dream Lights. I think it is very tacky to hand out a park map showing something that is not available.

So I'm more than a little frustrated about this (and at how the Guest Relations CM dealt with me). Any ideas as to why they would decide to not show the Dream Lights when they had been previously announced? Budget cuts? Trying to get the new projections set up on the Castle? Whatever the cause, I found it to be unacceptable. I understand entertainment is always subject to change, but this was clearly not an issue of a power outage or anything like that--someone made a conscious decision to go against something they had been marketing. I would not have planned to arrive on New Years Day, deal with the crowds, and pay double for a hotel room had I known they weren't going to show one of their major holiday offerings (I would have arrived on 1/3, seen the parade at AK and the Osborne lights, and moved on with my vacation).

Adding insult to the injury, the rest of the MK decorations remained up and lit the entire week with Christmas music playing on Main Street. Way to throw salt on the wound. By the way, the rest of the vacation was fantastic--beautiful weather for most of the week and we got to see the WWoHP at Islands of Adventure!
 

GymLeaderPhil

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Could have been technical issues. Maybe something related to Entertainment since Cinderella's Holiday Wish show typically kicks off the lighting of the castle.
 

T-1MILLION

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Sorry to hear but a letter to the company will get the problem more adressed and possibly compensation for the way you were treated compared to what will happen by posting it here.
 

Hakunamatata

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Stuff happens. :shrug:

I'm a little surprised that you would be offended that they didn't immediately take down the remainder of the decorations just because the dream lights were not working or being shown for whatever reason.
 

WDWFigment

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My guess--and I have absolutely nothing to corroborate this--would be something pertaining to the new projections on the Castle. Still, it shouldn't have been announced if it wasn't going to occur, nor should it have been on the guide maps. If you relied on the announcement (as you clearly did) when booking, I would certainly contact guest relations and seek some sort of compensation.
 

TheDisneyMagic

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My guess--and I have absolutely nothing to corroborate this--would be something pertaining to the new projections on the Castle. Still, it shouldn't have been announced if it wasn't going to occur, nor should it have been on the guide maps. If you relied on the announcement (as you clearly did) when booking, I would certainly contact guest relations and seek some sort of compensation.

While I do agree partially, Disney have posted absolutely everywhere that shows and attractions can be cancelled or closed at any time and are never guaranteed to be running.

Although I am sure if you write to them, they will give you something in compensation to keep you as an individual happy and return.
 

Pioneer Hall

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My guess is also the projection situation. I have been there the first week in Jan for the last 3 years and saw the dream lights each time. I am guessing that they are in a rush to remove them this year so they can start the new "campaign"
 

jt04

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My two cents.

As I have been saying I believe there is a serious push to get portions of the FLE open ASAP. The removal of the castle lights may just be part of the 'push' to get all that needs to be accomplished done.

I guess the silver lining is that the lights will return in the future. :xmas:
 

MissM

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I was there New Year's Day and they were on then. So they lit them 1/1/11 for sure. (I missed the last showing of Holiday Wishes that night because it went off at 8pm for reasons unknown and I was still at the Studios at 8pm but I digress.)

They may not have been on 1/2/11 but they were on 1/1/11.
 

Buried20KLeague

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Stuff happens. :shrug:

I'm a little surprised that you would be offended that they didn't immediately take down the remainder of the decorations just because the dream lights were not working or being shown for whatever reason.

If they advertised that they would be offered through a certain date, and they weren't, then I believe he has a valid concern. :shrug:

Just as if someone planned a trip around going to the first showing of the season, and then they didn't do it. If I planned my trip around something specific, that was advertised, and it was canceled for something other than an acceptible reason that was announced (weather, technical difficulties) I'd be upset too.
 

ddbowdoin

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If they advertised that they would be offered through a certain date, and they weren't, then I believe he has a valid concern. :shrug:

Just as if someone planned a trip around going to the first showing of the season, and then they didn't do it. If I planned my trip around something specific, that was advertised, and it was canceled for something other than an acceptible reason that was announced (weather, technical difficulties) I'd be upset too.


why? they have the discretion to end or cease the function of any and all operations at any time.... there has to be some small print, "all schedules are subject to change"
 

WDWFigment

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While I do agree partially, Disney have posted absolutely everywhere that shows and attractions can be cancelled or closed at any time and are never guaranteed to be running.

Although I am sure if you write to them, they will give you something in compensation to keep you as an individual happy and return.

I understand that Disney has a CYA disclaimer purportedly giving it carte blanche to not run attractions, shows, or any other form of entertainment. I also understand that sometimes attractions, show, etc., cannot be run for valid reasons (weather, mechanical failure, etc.). Because of circumstances like those, I see the disclaimer as fine.

However, when a conscious decision is made to not offer a key piece of entertainment despite it being advertised as being offered, that disclaimer doesn't mean a whole lot to me. Disney can't just disclaim all accountability or responsibility to run attractions it advertised would be running because it decided against running them.

why? they have the discretion to end or cease the function of any and all operations at any time.... there has to be some small print, "all schedules are subject to change"

Putting some right or authority in fine print doesn't necessarily make it valid.
 

Buried20KLeague

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why? they have the discretion to end or cease the function of any and all operations at any time.... there has to be some small print, "all schedules are subject to change"

Because their right to not do something because of the fine print located somewhere hard to find wouldn't keep me from still being upset about it. :confused:

Say, because of job or booking discount reasons, that I plan a trip where my last day was to see the first MSEP showing last year. And they didn't show it that night. For some reason that wasn't obvious. It just... Didn't happen. And then I go to guest relations, who clearly had no idea what was going on either, and had to spend quite some time finding an answer.

Then they come back to me with an answer of "well, if you check the fine print, we can cancel any attraction or show at any time".

What should I then do? Say "aw, shucks. You're right." and skip out of there singing zip-a-dee-do-da? Or can I still be bummed that I didn't get to see something I clearly had planned for, and leave without causing a scene or laying into a CM (as it seems the OP did)?

That seems like a perfectly acceptibile response to me.

And just because they have a disclaimer in the fine print doesn't mean Disney can't or shouldn't "toss the guy a bone" to make up for it and keep him happy. A couple free fastpasses or something could go a long way in a situation like this, where there was clearly something amiss, and something like that wouldn't cost Disney a penny. Disney is about going "above and beyond", isn't it? Clearly this would be the perfect opportunity to easy turn lemons into lemonade, and maybe today's post from the OP wouldn't be focused on how the Dreamlights weren't working (as advertised), but instead about the great CM that did everything they could to make up for it.
 

ToTBellHop

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I am aware that entertainment is subject to being canceled, as I stated in my original post. My problem is that they canceled something they had marketed to people (arguably to increase attendance and convince people to pay increased resort rates) and gave no reason (and, in fact, ignored it in the park). I have seen fireworks canceled and rides closed due to weather or other issues many times in the past, and they announce the unplanned closure and have CMs prepared to explain the closure to guests.

This, however, was completely ignored in the park and I was treated rudely by a guest relations cast member. That is not the level of service I have come to expect from Disney. I obviously will be sending a letter to Disney, but I decided to post here because I have found people here in the past who have knowledge related to incidents like this. Responses like "stuff happens" give Disney a free pass to continue acting like this. I realize the lights will be up again in the future, but I don't plan on traveling to WDW at Christmas every year. It was very expensive and very crowded, so I don't think it's reasonable to plan another trip to see when Disney feels like stopping the Dream Lights next year.
 

Korfar

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I think the OP has the right to be upset. Disney may have the legal right to cancel attractions as they see fit but it doesn't make it morally right. Therefore if someone plans a trip based on what is advertised they have the right to expect it to be operating. Hopefully Disney will do something for you.
 

T-1MILLION

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Just because a company holds the rights to do it, does not mean it is the right thing to do for your guests/customers.


Seriously, I hope you write in. Keep us posted because I am interested to know what kind of response you get.
 

ToTBellHop

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Does anyone know to what address (and to whom) I should send my letter to actually have someone read it?
 

tahqa

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So just got back from my WDW vacation, and one of the reasons we decided to arrive on 1/1/11 and deal with heavy crowds (by the way, it was surprisingly busy all week) was for the Castle Dream Lights, which I have never seen and which were officially announced as being lit thru 1/3/11 (see here http://www.wdwnews.com/ViewPressRelease.aspx?PressReleaseID=115273). Imagine my shock when my wife and I arrive on 1/2/11 and they are not lighting the Dream Lights! I ask several Cast Members when the lights will be lit, and they all respond with "they aren't on yet?" to which I respond "no." I then go to Guest Relations to inquire, and after about 20 minutes of the CM conducting "research", he states that the lights will not be on, that the ended on 12/31/10, and that I was clearly wrong and he could not find "any announcement" that the lights were still meant to be on (again, view the website above--I wish I had brought a print-out!). He then lectured me on other holiday offerings though I was quite aware of the parade at AK. I even went to far as to show him the park map they were handing out that night, which shows the Dream Lights. I think it is very tacky to hand out a park map showing something that is not available.

This website mentioned here (wdwnews) is not an official Disney website. Just thought I'd throw that out. :shrug:
 

ToTBellHop

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I does, however, show a Disney press release. This had been marketed on the official Disney website, but, of course, you can't find it now as the holiday season has ended.
 

Tigger1988

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Disney makes it very clear that all dates are subject to change and nothing is 100% guaranteed to be running during your trip. Sorry.
 
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