Casey Jr., Double Dumbo Unveiled !

Tip Top Club

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I like this. It's not perfect, it's obviously a small kids play area, but that said, something the imagineers have been speaking a lot about lately is Guest comfort. A lot of mist makes it way into the surrounding area, and while you don't get wet from It, it makes the area noticeable cooler than the rest of Fantasyland.

It's colorful, it's fun. It's certainly nothing to right home about but it's definitely a positive addition.
 

Uncle Lupe

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Does this give any hope to other water features returning to MK? If they can waste water on this thing why not turn fountains on for ambiance and a kinetic feel?
 

Nicole

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I hope there will be a convenient gift shop for unprepared parents to drop $80 on a complete new outfit - like I had to several years ago after my then 2-year-old spent one of the happiest hours of her life playing in the water feature close to Mission:Space. :)
 

Billy6

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I was at MK when they openned and turned the water on Friday morning. I have great video of construcion workers, imagineers and other CM that worked on the attraction playing in the water. There were some Disney photogs there and a lot of what seemed like some management CMs too... They were congratulating each other on the job they did. There is a small kiosk that had water shoes, towels and the like off to the back on the caboose.
 

El-Fuego

Member
While this is a nice little addition it shows that Disney doesn't really count this too highly when they quietly open it to no fanfare while they're big time Disneyland expansion is opening.

One big effort to open the whole Storybook Circus area and some hoopla is required. While it is nice to see new things I think it would be more special to see the whole area complete from the beginning. Is anyone else a little disturbed by this piecemeal approach?

Come on WDW, I don't want to have to go to California to be impressed. Yeah we've finished Luigis, let's open that and let people in before the rest is finished. No, it was all done and how impressive was that? I just don't get these two different approaches, it just seems badly managed.

Come one, come all, come see the half finished show!
 

Next Big Thing

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So has everyone seen the REAL gem from this area? Check this out:

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There are two "rules" on there that should never be listed under any "rules" board in any theme park. Not due to stupidity, but due to WDW maintaining themselves, or lack there of. I think you can figure out what i'm talking about here.
 

Bolna

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There are two "rules" on there that should never be listed under any "rules" board in any theme park. Not due to stupidity, but due to WDW maintaining themselves, or lack there of. I think you can figure out what i'm talking about here.

As far as I know these are the rules that have to be displayed by law at everything that is considered a "pool" and the water play feature qualifies as such. There is the same notice at the fountains (which spurt water a little bit) close to the restrooms between Yak & Yeti and Kali River Rapids in AK. I once read a TR from someone who works in the field and she explained it that way.
 

Next Big Thing

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As far as I know these are the rules that have to be displayed by law at everything that is considered a "pool" and the water play feature qualifies as such. There is the same notice at the fountains (which spurt water a little bit) close to the restrooms between Yak & Yeti and Kali River Rapids in AK. I once read a TR from someone who works in the field and she explained it that way.
The "rule" about not swallowing water is only a law if you aren't properly filtering the water, which is the case in Storybook Circus. As stated on the sign It is recirculated. The rest of the park isn't like that, but for some reason, they decided to run Storybook Circus this way, which is completely idiotic considering they have this splash n soak zone. For restrooms or a ride like Kali, it's not really as big a deal, but for a splash zone like that where they are shooting water at kids faces pretty much, you shouldn't have to say not to swallow the water. It should be clean enough to where it's not a problem if they do.
 

Uncle Lupe

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So there is on system to monitor the water quality and shut it down if there is problem detected? I can understand that is not cost effective measure to use this level protection but I would hope something was in place.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/05/29/working-the-water.html

"The underground works of the Bicentennial fountain include a chlorine tank, a sand filter and an ultraviolet-light tank that purifies water. Meters constantly test the water and adjust treatments based on pH-level readings, said Tony Condo, a building-maintenance supervisor for Recreation and Parks.
Last year, sanitation issues sometimes closed the fountain when children left fecal matter behind. When that happens, just as in city swimming pools, protocol from the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is followed. Shutting down the fountain for up to four hours can be required for a serious incident, Condo said"
 

Next Big Thing

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So there is on system to monitor the water quality and shut it down if there is problem detected? I can understand that is not cost effective measure to use this level protection but I would hope something was in place.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/05/29/working-the-water.html

"The underground works of the Bicentennial fountain include a chlorine tank, a sand filter and an ultraviolet-light tank that purifies water. Meters constantly test the water and adjust treatments based on pH-level readings, said Tony Condo, a building-maintenance supervisor for Recreation and Parks.
Last year, sanitation issues sometimes closed the fountain when children left fecal matter behind. When that happens, just as in city swimming pools, protocol from the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is followed. Shutting down the fountain for up to four hours can be required for a serious incident, Condo said"
I'm not sure exactly what's in place there (I know 74 has commented on this before, so he may know more than I), but I am pretty sure it's not hooked in with the rest of the MK's water system. I think it's just being recirculated through a recirculation pump - I could be wrong on that though.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Good God. I hate Circusland with a passion, I really do.

I'm happy for all you people who dig this, but personally, I couldn't dislike it more if they had build a land consisting of a spinner and a McDonald's water&urine playland with monkeys squirting water at you. Oh wait...

Oh well. I'm off to Adventureland. Where I can still enjoy old-fashioned big-kid WDW fun, without spinners and cartoon animals spitting water in my direction.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Im guessing there is some sarcasm in that comment given the Aladdin spinner and water spitting camels in Adventureland.
Sarcasm to the point of bitter despair at the cartoonification and toddlerization of what was once the greatest place on earth for adults to spend an afternoon.

People used to dress up their children to go to a Disney park. Just to soak in that this was an experience several steps up from going to the local playground to get dirty.
Nowadays kids in Disney are dressed down so they can get dirty and smelly in the McDonald Duck's playland area.
 

djkidkaz

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Sarcasm to the point of bitter despair at the cartoonification and toddlerization of what was once the greatest place on earth for adults to spend an afternoon.

People used to dress up their children to go to a Disney park. Just to soak in that this was an experience several steps up from going to the local playground to get dirty.
Nowadays kids in Disney are dressed down so they can get dirty and smelly in the McDonald Duck's playland area.

Um no, that's not why kids aren't dressed up anymore, it's because our society is different.
 

Next Big Thing

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Um no, that's not why kids aren't dressed up anymore, it's because our society is different.
Unfortunately you're mostly right. People look at it like going to six flags. They don't see it like Walt and everyone originally did back when DL opened in 1955. If people walked in there dressed up today (and their kids dressed up), unfortunately, people would probably give them some weird looks.

Now, another big reason is obviously the Florida climate. The summer temps (heck, year round climate here) is not really prone to dressing up and walking around a park all day. It just isn't.
 

Kuhio

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There's always the Dapper Day events, if you want to dress up to go to a Disney park and not feel like you're the only one who showed up in a seersucker suit. It's a neat idea that seems to be growing in popularity.

But yeah, the temperature and humidity at WDW can be pretty hard to deal with year-round if you're in that kind of attire. I'm not sure how some of the face characters aren't visibly drenched in sweat in the warmer months -- I guess they have to find CMs who are very heat-tolerant...

Apropos of this topic, I remember some of the early EPCOT Center renderings and promotional materials, which showed guests dressed not only nicer than the average modern-day theme park patrons, but in international attire from several different cultures as well. It was a nice way to suggest an aspirational feel for the park's future guests, especially in light of the themes of World Showcase.
 

alissafalco

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The "rule" about not swallowing water is only a law if you aren't properly filtering the water, which is the case in Storybook Circus. As stated on the sign It is recirculated. The rest of the park isn't like that, but for some reason, they decided to run Storybook Circus this way, which is completely idiotic considering they have this splash n soak zone. For restrooms or a ride like Kali, it's not really as big a deal, but for a splash zone like that where they are shooting water at kids faces pretty much, you shouldn't have to say not to swallow the water. It should be clean enough to where it's not a problem if they do.

Yes, I totally agree! Recirculating the water just sounds disgusting. Especially for a kids zone where the water will be splashed in their faces and im sure will get in some kids mouths. I will not let my daughter play in this area for that reason. Does that mean also that the water just drains on the floor where everyone is walking/running around and it just gets splashed in the kids faces again??? This actually sounds pretty gross.
 

El-Fuego

Member
You can post rules about not entering while you've got the runs and not drinking the water but lets not forget that this will probably go right over the heads of some kids and perhaps their parents. This recirculating time bomb for disease seems like a bad move. Disney lawyers at the ready.

I would be extremely worried about letting my kids enter into something which from the outset seems invisibly dangerous. I think we need proper clarification from Disney as to the potential health hazards involved with this installment. Or how about installing proper filtration and cleansing.
 

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