MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Agent H]

The smaller cars attraction.

That’s supposed to be a flat ride right?

 

[Brer Oswald]

That’s supposed to be a flat ride right?

It’s supposed to be cars driving around a smaller track. Basically what Autopia Jr was to the original Autopia.

 

[flynnibus]

But it seems that there is a mindset by some members here, who are not employed by Disney or have any professional affiliation with Disney and no stake in any of the design & operational decisions made by Disney, that they want this change to happen, almost as if their own experiences in the park would be enhanced by ripping out TSI/ROA and slapping Cars Land on top of it instead of building it on an empty plot of land that would not include removing any current attraction/area/land. That is a very puzzling thing to me

That's a very long winded way to simply say "Their opinion, given the knowns, is this choice is the better choice..."

This idea that you can always just expand isn't reality. Forget the the issues of land you can develop, or conservation, or buffers, or whatever. Expanding means exactly that.. expanding what you must staff, must maintain, what you must share your resources with, etc.

If you have a run down bathroom in your house you really want to replace with something better.. do you build an expansion to your house, or do you renovate the bathroom? When the Resort says "no one plays tennis anymore, we should add pickelball..." do they add more courts and see stuff still left unutilized, or do they replace the under utilized stuff?

Expanding has a lot of 'forever' type of increases in overhead and infrastructure... and why you will always see an affinity for REPLACING more than you will see for EXPANDING.

Here, someone is already making the argument that TSI and ROA are expendable or a liability.. and they've made the judgement they should be replaced. It's not a crazy idea that some people from the outside.... may come to similar conclusions.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Mater will say “yeehaw”. What more do you people want?!

 

[Bocabear]

I just don't believe a well designed Theme park necessarily means cramming as many attractions per square foot of space as is possible... They could tear down most of Tomorrowland and cram a bunch more attractions in....why stop there? Why not tear down Main Street and fill that Hub area with flat rides...
Attractions like The Jungle Cruise, Tom Sawyer's Island, The Liberty Belle, Hall Of Presidents are placemaking... they halp set the theme and story for the journey you are on...Which was always the Disney difference.... Feels like most people are not enjoying the parks but just check-listing attractions and on the the next thing... Which is kinda sad.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

to be fair…. We aren’t replacing the rivers with just flat rides. What will be built should look quite nice. Just maybe out of place.

 

[Bocabear]

SO why can't it look quite nice and be someplace it belongs? Why cram it into a location it doesn't really fit when there are 3 other parks that all need attractions...and without having to lose things to build it....

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

SO why can't it look quite nice and be someplace it belongs? Why cram it into a location it doesn't really fit when there are 3 other parks that all need attractions...and without having to lose things to build it....

Oh I’m with you. Trust me. Losing the riverboat is criminal but I’ve been told “no one rides it”

 

[Bocabear]

If they had been updating and adding to the show scenes on both the Riverboat and the Train, they could get a lot of people riding it....but they just slowly let these things decay and then declare no one rides it....

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I was being sarcastic anyways… plenty enjoy the riverboat as is. I would love to see the plans that include keeping the riverboat - I’m sure they exist.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

SO why can't it look quite nice and be someplace it belongs? Why cram it into a location it doesn't really fit when there are 3 other parks that all need attractions...and without having to lose things to build it....

I hear you... so we have made the choice to add Cars to Animal Kingdom. I mean the oil company is called "DinoCo" after all!

 

[BrianLo]

If it was a small ride that I didn't like then whatever, I'm not going to like every attraction. It's so huge, though, that if it was removed they could probably put in two attractions (including a new E ticket), dining, and retail in that space.

Magic Kingdom doesn’t lack space though, I think this just gets into more of the remove things that are working already well for marginal gains. Especially as the culture of that attraction has more recently spilled outward to things like Skippers canteen.

From the corporate lens (not just the fan one), Jungle cruise is working. For a while there it was I think the main Genie+ priority. Those metrics inform the current iteration of the company in their decision making.

Though on the flip side, I’d love a *real* Jungle cruise at DAK. But I wouldn’t sacrifice this ride for it.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

We may be outliers but I do wonder, given the big spike in the neurodiverse population in the US, if there are other people who value more old school rides for this reason.

Yes and… lots of people who are not neurodiverse enjoy relaxing attractions like people mover, riverboat, steam train, etc.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Magic Kingdom doesn’t lack space though, I think this just gets into more of the remove things that are working already well for marginal gains. Especially as the culture of that attraction has more recently spilled outward to things like Skippers canteen.

From the corporate lens (not just the fan one), Jungle cruise is working. For a while there it was I think the main Genie+ priority. Those metrics inform the current iteration of the company in their decision making.

Last time I went on the ride it was the first day of Jingle Cruise for the season and it had the highest wait time in the park.

It's capacity is limited by its design and load/unload process, but the demand for the ride is clearly still there.

 

[Agent H]

I really value rides like Jungle Cruise and Speedway because they’re some of the most sensory friendly for my little guy. It seems like newer rides always go for “more”. More lights, sounds, actions, movement, surprises, and so on.

We may be outliers but I do wonder, given the big spike in the neurodiverse population in the US, if there are other people who value more old school rides for this reason.

I agree with your assessment but the speedway is about as relaxing as trying to disarm a bomb in the same room as a angry lion.

 

[JohnD]

I just don't believe a well designed Theme park necessarily means cramming as many attractions per square foot of space as is possible... They could tear down most of Tomorrowland and cram a bunch more attractions in....why stop there? Why not tear down Main Street and fill that Hub area with flat rides...
Attractions like The Jungle Cruise, Tom Sawyer's Island, The Liberty Belle, Hall Of Presidents are placemaking... they halp set the theme and story for the journey you are on...Which was always the Disney difference.... Feels like most people are not enjoying the parks but just check-listing attractions and on the the next thing... Which is kinda sad.

Can you imagine the wasted space that is World Showcase Lagoon? Jeez.

 

[DisneyHead123]

I agree with your assessment but the speedway is about as relaxing as trying to disarm a bomb in the same room as an angry lion.

Ha ha, yeah, it depends on a person’s preferences for sure.

 

[Dranth]

Feels like most people are not enjoying the parks but just check-listing attractions and on the the next thing... Which is kinda sad.

Seems like a modern issue but it certainly describes a lot of visitors. I guess folks enjoy it, but it sure looks stressful and miserable from the outside.

 

[phillip9698]

.... Feels like most people are not enjoying the parks but just check-listing attractions and on the the next thing... Which is kinda sad.

When a trip to the park for a family is upwards of $700 for one day you can’t expect people to take time to meander around. You have to hit the attractions to make it appear to be worth the money.

 

[disneylandtour]

Walt was intimately involved with the development of the Magic Kingdom and surrounding resorts. He was hands on up to the time of his death with the project.

This is generally true. But a LOT of what envision for those resorts was never built. And I don't mean the Venetian. There was a whole range of projects before that.