MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[JMcMahonEsq]

Hey, if people are interested in waiting in lines all day, if they think that is a good theme park experience, and if Disney wants to give them that...who am I to tell them otherwise? But that type of experience just isn't for me.

I can't stand (pun intended) the lines either. That's why we don't generally wait in them, using whatever line skip system, FP, FP+, Genie +, LL, ect. Is available. Personally i also benefit subjectively bc i don't like coasters, so a lot of the longer lines I am not stuck in, but for my family that does, see line skips.

However rides/attractions that don't attract people, don't have any effect on lines. TSI is a ghost town. Its not easy to get to, can't just go spur of the moment, its not an IP that anyone under 30? really has any connection with, and doesn't offer much of anything that you can't get a a number of local/cheaper type parks. I mean do you honestly think there is a significant portion of the attendees of the park that 1) are going looking to go to TSI, or 2) are saying, listen i don't really want to go to TSI, but the lines are long for rides i do want to go on, and rather than wait in them, i am going to go do something i didn't want to do in the first place?

 

[Andrew C]

Something isn't a filler if it isn't being used. No business, parks or otherwise, need of should be devoted square footage to something that is not being used. People are simply not using TSI, or LB. There is no reason to keep things around for them to sit fallow for small percentages of guests every day.

People do use TSI and LB.

And even more so, almost every guest uses RoA.

 

[RosR9]

The castle is essentially safe, as it's the second-best known company mascot right behind Mickey himself.

But....let's not pretend that Pirates is an attraction that will exist as long as the Magic Kingdom does. Pirates are symbolic of an action-adventure genre that waxes and wanes in popularity as time goes on, and it wouldn't surprise me if in 20-30 years, pirates become the new cowboys and PotC winds up on the chopping block for something flashier and newer.

Maybe it will spring from the Moana boat ride that was initially drawn up in the Animal Kingdom concept art.

I mean....if the cavernous grotto fits...

At this point I’m just waiting for the Swiss family tree house to get demolished for a Moana meet and greet or something

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

It's kind of funny how the classic Disney theme park attractions/elements were relevant and enjoyable to kids from the 50s into the 90s/2000s-5 decades-and then, all of a sudden, according to some people, they are irrelevant to today's youth, and MUST BE REPLACED! Looks like Disney and their bootlickers on here are really leaning into the Vegas style of additions-it will last about 25 years, and then need to be replaced. Rinse and repeat.

Shocking, you mean to tell me tastes change over TIME? Amazing. Next you will be telling me that arcades, roller rinks, and soda shops aren't popular anymore. Or that they getting rid of the smoking sections in public, and on the planes, and in the restaurants.... But as long as the kids aren't playing outside with fake guns anymore and roaming the neighborhoods with their friends we should be fine.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Something isn't a filler if it isn't being used. No business, parks or otherwise, need of should be devoted square footage to something that is not being used. People are simply not using TSI, or LB. There is no reason to keep things around for them to sit fallow for small percentages of guests every day.

Fallow, great word. Thanks counselor.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

People do use TSI and LB.

And even more so, almost every guest uses RoA.

What people? At an appreciable percentage, not that i have ever seen, and apparently not according to the data WDW has.

As for RoA, what are you talking about? No one uses RoA, its not like there are paddle boats or canoes to ride on it. People aren't using it like a lazy river. There isn't walking paths along the river, or restaurants along its shores.

 

[SoFloMagic]

It's attitudes like that which result in Cars Land. Park Commandos complain about AK, for example, being a "half-day" park, leaving out the shows and animal walkways. There aren't additional "E tickets". Congratulations. Disney is listening to you. More rides to knock out. Less atmosphere. Hope you're happy.

That's not my point of view. I often just walk around animal kingdom and do no rides at all. I avoid magic kingdom like the plague. My hope is for some people eaters that make it tolerable to be there.

I'll miss the river, but replacing the boat and TSI with what, 4 rides? It should make that park more tolerable.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

People are simply not using TSI, or LB.

Can you please explain your thoughts on why you think cars is the best use of this space?

It seems you are just arguing for fun. If I’m missing a point you are trying to make I’d love to know.

It seems you have something personal against riverboats.

 

[donaldtoo]

That's not my point of view. I often just walk around animal kingdom and do no rides at all. I avoid magic kingdom like the plague. My hope is for some people eaters that make it tolerable to be there.

I'll miss the river, but replacing the boat and TSI with what, 4 rides? It should make that park more tolerable.

Who spends big bucks to go on a multi-day vacation that’s “tolerable”…?!?!?!
If that’s your (in general) kinda’ vacation, you have other issues…!!!!!

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Even if they actually build 4 attractions it will still be one less attraction than what they had in the 80’s (Admiral Joe Fowler, Richard F Irvine, TSI, keel boats, and canoes) or the same number of attractions if you count the two riverboats as one. A lateral move at best on the attraction count.

 

[Andrew C]

As for RoA, what are you talking about? No one uses RoA

The above quote points to us having entirely different views on what makes a theme park, particularly a Disney park, a good experience. I am not sure if there is anything else left to say.

 

[SamusAranX]

That's not my point of view. I often just walk around animal kingdom and do no rides at all. I avoid magic kingdom like the plague. My hope is for some people eaters that make it tolerable to be there.

I'll miss the river, but replacing the boat and TSI with what, 4 rides? It should make that park more tolerable.

Your hope for people eaters has already been dashed.

It’s been made abundantly clear Disney no longer wants those. Any new attraction has LL revenue potential now as a crucial factor towards its development and end build. It’s been confirmed by insiders here in this very thread.

 

[Moth]

Do you think the budget for this project is gonna come from the coins thrown into the ROA once they drain it?

 

[Brer Panther]

Yeah, I don't think some people really get how important it is for the overall experience to have things to do and see that do not require a long wait in a line.

I suppose somebody could claim "but that's what Lightning Lane is for!" - but if every other person is using Lightning Lane, won't that just result in the Lightning Lane lines being long too?

You (and Bob, Josh and Hugh) are right.

There should be no walk on attractions, Walk on attractions is bad for business. All attractions should have full queues and (of course) SELL LLs.

And clearly we are all dumb hicks who hate anything that isn't a big E-Ticket based on an IP. Hey, why don't we fill in the moat around the castle and put a Tangled ride there? And all that space taken up by the water in Animal Kingdom would be a GREAT space for a roller coaster based on Wish...

If you don’t think the park should have a mix of A-E tickets that’s a different argument. Pretty much every theme park and even carnival has a mix of a-e attractions by design.

Word. My family went to Busch Gardens Williamsburg in 2023. Everything there falls into one of three categories:

1) A huge, super-intense roller coaster
2) A thrill ride
3) A kiddy ride with some sort of height/weight requirement

I don't like huge, super-intense roller coasters, so I wound up only going on two rides: a Himalaya-esque ride and a small roller coaster in the Sesame Street section. Huzzah.

Theme parks need attractions that EVERYONE can enjoy. Dark rides, boat rides, that sort of thing.

Something isn't a filler if it isn't being used. No business, parks or otherwise, need of should be devoted square footage to something that is not being used.

The space once occupied by Stitch's Great Escape isn't being used but they're still just letting THAT sit there empty.

 

[peter11435]

The space once occupied by Stitch's Great Escape isn't being used but they're still just letting THAT sit there empty.

That space has unique complications that currently make development challenging

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Word. My family went to Busch Gardens Williamsburg in 2023. Everything there falls into one of three categories:

I haven’t been in a few years but they used to have a boat ride and a steam train.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

That space has unique complications that currently make development prohibitive

Development, but not use.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

Yes! A new water slide ride!!!

Here's your ride:

Water directed to inlet, inlet goes to the canal, canal goes to the water management system, and the Utilidors are hopefully saved.

You knew I was talking abut a major flooding event, right?

Now about the new pond to the south:

There is no conduit or inlet to the new retention ponds down there, and there is no other nearby pond, as @lazyboy97o pointed out. The new pond must be implied.

Orange County's hydrology reports suggest the waters south of this comment will be a new pond, but we will have to see if this changes.

 

[Incomudro]

It's so interesting that so many people care so much about the riverboat and Tom sawyer island, yet they both are walk ons every time I go.

what if. and I know it's big IF. but it'd be cool as an homage to TSI if they built hidden caves into the new landscape. add some level of discoverability into the land that allows for some play features apart from rid

Not the point.
It's the loss of the ambiance and tone of the scenery that matters most.
You don't have to set foot on TSI or the Riverboat to experience what they bring.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The world's busiest theme park needs attractions to absorb crowds and give people something else to do besides waiting in line and spending money. It also needs attractions that are accessible for all ages and do not have height requirements or cause physical discomfort. The Riverboat was a relaxing ride for seniors and TSI was a place for kids to run and play.

Otherwise you're left with a park like DHS in its current state, the most miserable to visit without paying extra.