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danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Fido Chuckwagon said:
I’m pretty sure that ROA is not on the second level of the park. The utilidoors do not run under ROA.
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Correct...

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danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Incomudro said:
The removal of the river is the one thing that is hitting me hard.
I can accept most of the other changes with mixed responses - some I like, some I don't.
But, yes - end of an era for me with the removal of the river and river boat.
It really hurts Magic Kingdom a lot for me.
It just removes the charm, and the classic Disney aspect for me.
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This is exactly how I feel. Even if you never set foot on Tom Sawyer's island, or ride the riverboat, that river still has an intangible impact on your park experience.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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danlb_2000 said:
This is exactly how I feel. Even if you never set foot on Tom Sawyer's island, or ride the riverboat, that river still has an intangible impact on your park experience.
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As someone who never set foot and watched walkthroughs, I really honestly couldn't care less about the river. I know its a controversial opinion but its just how me and my family experience the parks. It's kinda cool to look at but the concept art, even if we don't get the full level, looks better to me. I think there's a more tasteful way of doing it to keep some water by HM or BTM though... but if not, I'm not going to sweat much.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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AidenRodriguez731 said:
As someone who never set foot and watched walkthroughs, I really honestly couldn't care less about the river. I know its a controversial opinion but its just how me and my family experience the parks. It's kinda cool to look at but the concept art, even if we don't get the full level, looks better to me. I think there's a more tasteful way of doing it to keep some water by HM or BTM though... but if not, I'm not going to sweat much.
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I would bet it has a bigger impact on your day then you realize.
 
Dutch Inn '76

Dutch Inn '76

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Blobbles said:
know it may sound like I’m laying it on a bit thick, but does anyone feel like with all these major changes it’s the “End Of An Era” for Walt Disney World? I know sometimes, as fans, we like to split things up into eras, like the Eisner era per-say. I think over the past decade and a half leading up to new Epcot, most additions to the parks like new fantasyland/tron, pandora, even the backlot replacement and GMR replacement at DHS, while there has been a lot of change, the fabric of the parks have all generally felt like it has had the same and a connection in the “this is the same park that was here on opening day” to an extent (Disney’s Hollywood Studios in the front half still somewhat felt like there were some small connections to the MGM days with the old Hollywood sections and grand avenue).However, ever since the New Epcot finally got fully done, EPCOT has felt somewhat “different” in an intangible sense, All these expansions at the other three parks will sorta complete this slow evolution the other parks have been having over time. I do feel this has been a gradual thing, but these new major expansions will sorta be the final nail. While some, like the rivers of america, will be a more drastic change than what’s happening at DHS, i do feel like the “feeling” the parks have will be changed in the same way Epcot has been. To me, The Magic Kingdom and Disney’s Hollywood Studios will no longer fully feel like the same park that was there on opening day. And maybe that’s ok.
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Definitely agree. Epcot hasn't been the same since the '98-99 move away from "edutainment." Out with Imagination, World of Motion, & Horizons. It's been searching for its purpose since then, and is still floundering.

Hollywood Studios is the same; out with the Animators, street performers, back lot, etc, and now it's "The Not Quite As Cool Magic Kingdom."

They butchered Downtown Disney/Pleasure Island and turned it into a shopping mall. But I guess they're making money - and that's the name of the game.

Animal Kingdom has never really been built out completely - I hope the planned additions don't take away from the mission/theme there too much, and finally give us a complete Park.

The only place that has been constant and on point throughout, has been the Magic Kingdom. I'm afraid they're going to take away some of the appeal for me as well. I understand why they're doing it: they're taking the underperforming part of their busiest Park and attempting to bring it up to speed with the rest of the place. The positive in this is that maybe it will spread crowds out across the MK more efficiently. The negative is that they're removing my favorite part of Disney World. The fact that my favorite part is the least popular area probably means that American culture has just left me (and a lot of us) behind.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Mr. Sullivan said:
How so, though? If you're a guest who already doesn't really interact with it, how is absence going to change your day?
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Theme oarks are storytelling through the use of built space. The Rivers of America is the central spatial organizing element of Frontierland and Liberty Square. You can’t enter those lands and not interact with the Rivers. How things are placed is part of the experience.
 
JackCH

JackCH

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I agree with intangible impact of aesthetics and the ROA on the experience. My question is I’m not sure if that intangible impact outweighs a lot of the benefits this area might bring. I always found myself frustrated, not peaceful, in Frontierland because of the crowd bottlenecks. This area forms a nice loop to hopefully help that. I get people find this area beautiful and charming (I do too) but I think it is a bit presumptuous to assume everyone feels that way “unconsciously” even when they consciously say they would prefer something different.

I think the final verdict will ultimately depend on 1) how good the Cars E Ticket is, and 2) how good the theming is of the “natural parks” area and how much water is incorporated. I know the storytelling of the land is ruined, and that is a loss, but there is a possible net positive if what replaces it is well recieved.
 

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