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Coco and Encanto for that location.If you’re at liberty to say, what was the alternative? Coco and Villains sounded amazing to me.
Coco and Encanto for that location.If you’re at liberty to say, what was the alternative? Coco and Villains sounded amazing to me.
Especially since the only parts of current Frontierland they mentioned were Big Thunder, Country Bears, and Tiana’s- TSI is the only attraction left out of that list.Hope that is the case but they did say Cars will be in a “reimagined” part of Frontierland which based on many responses here implies they’re removing something, and that might be the river and island connecting the dots. We shall see though..
WDW is blessed with the gift of size. Most aren't advocating that things never change or that IP will be used. WDW has the space, they just don't need to shoehorn things in all the time. People want changes, they want new experiences but they also want them to fit whatever theme they're going into. That's not really an unreasonable ask in my opinion.Whether you want Magic Kingdom to stay the same, Disneyland has Star Wars Galaxy's Edge and Hong Kong has Frozen and Toy Story, Shanghai has Zootpoia. Paris seems the only other one that will stay the same for now. IP is going to be everywhere unfortunately.
Not to mention it’s only 5 years post its major mechanical overhaul. And the track replacement. So all pretty recent stuff that’s fixing to be axed.I was hoping they never would because it is such an amazing experience. Hopefully they preserve it in some way. I’m very sad right now but I’m getting over it.
Cars ride looks very cool. I'm even fine with attractions (even favorites) being replaced. I just don't like trees, rivers, and ambiance being replaced by concrete and cartoons.Sorry kiddos….we’re not riding this new technologically cutting edge ride, grandma and grandpa can’t get past the thematic inconsistencies from the park in 1975. I know you’re only 8 but go read your Mark Twain.
Harry Potter land changed Disney’s philosophy on the parks and it’s never looked back..
They want to be Universal just as much as Universal showed Disney how IP makes revenue vs creating new fictional stories.
The good news is it looks like they'll still incorporate that ambiance, only it'll be man-made. I'm not too worried about cartoon cars... like RSR, the bulk of the cartoon stylization will likely take place out of view either being indoors or obscured from the Big Thunder RR vantage point.Cars ride looks very cool. I'm even fine with attractions (even favorites) being replaced. I just don't like trees, rivers, and ambiance being replaced by concrete and cartoons.
I'm so happy about the villain land announcement that I have decided to retract my previous anger towards this cars ride. Go ahead Lightning McQueen, you can take over Frontierland.![]()
The first pitch for Beyond Big Thunder in D23 2022, which I don’t think got much hate, was Encanto and Coco. I hated that idea because the American frontier is not South America and Mexico.
The story of these Cars attractions are clearly taking place in the American frontier and it is a natural fit to expand the borders of Frontierland as we are essentially walking from the frontier of the past to the frontier of the present where we use cars instead of horses to get around.
It’s still the frontier. Just a different era. That’s how I see it. And I can’t think of a better, popular IP, to choose instead.
I’m also so glad we didn’t just get a RSR copy!
WDW is blessed with the gift of size. Most aren't advocating that things never change or that IP will be used. WDW has the space, they just don't need to shoehorn things in all the time. People want changes, they want new experiences but they also want them to fit whatever theme they're going into. That's not really an unreasonable ask in my opinion.
What about Villains Land?You guys know how there's always one thing that puts you over the edge? The straw that broke the camel's back.
This one is mine. This is unforgivable. The justification of it fitting into the existing land is somehow worse than Chapek's of Cosmic Rewind ("Peter Quill visited EPCOT as a kid"). This is the greatest desecration of Magic Kingdom in its history, and keep in mind Cinderella Castle was once turned into a giant Pepto Bismol cake, and later covered in toilet paper.
The company that announced this is simply not the same company as the one that invented the theme park, and is not deserving of the legacy that got it to this place.
That's its own land so there's no concerns about ruining the thematic integrity of a land. Imho, it fits in the park using the same logic as Fantasyland.What about Villains Land?
I will accept this if they take this golden opportunity to route the railroad through the mountain and give us a Grand Canyon/Primeval World like Disneyland and give us back our Dinosaurs from Universe of Energy.I will accept this if they go FULL "Mine Train Thru Nature's Wonderland" and give us the Rainbow Caverns back lol.
Yup. And unfortunately the fans are inadvertently the catalyst of it. Disney has starved it's audience for so long, they go bananas for something like frozen shoved in Norway or cosmic rewind replacing energy. Then Disney says look how great we are!I know that but look at today's management, sightlines doesn't matter that an eyesoar of a showbuilding Cosmic Rewind is taller than Spaceship Earth, Tron would fit Future World and Cosmic Rewind would fit better at Disney's Hollywood Studios. The international parks some with just with one park have an excuse for that.
WDW is blessed with the gift of size. Most aren't advocating that things never change or that IP will be used. WDW has the space, they just don't need to shoehorn things in all the time. People want changes, they want new experiences but they also want them to fit whatever theme they're going into. That's not really an unreasonable ask in my opinion.
The description for the second attraction was pretty loose and free. Could just as easily be relocating LMRA. Did he specifically mention it being a "ride"?The way they described the second cars attraction makes me think Tomorrowland Speedway isn't long for this world. There is also Twitter talk/speculation of Laugh Floor moving to DHS which would then leave a lot of holes in Tomorrowland. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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