Captain America - The Winter Soldier trailer

Hobnail Boot

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I think the reason they inject so much humor is because if the films take themselves too seriously, they might come off as ludicrous. This isn't like the serious Batman films where it's a normal guy in a cape judo chopping bad guys with the occassional, slightly unbelievable action. These are movies where we have an alien with a big hammer that shoots lightning, a WWII super soldier who was frozen for 70 years and survived, and a billionaire who flies around in armor equipped with rocket boots and lasers. Having a bit of levity will help entertain those who don't know squat about the comics. I've never heard a theater laugh so hard as they did when Hulk picked Loki up and beat him like a rag doll. Many were still laughing about it as we exited, too.

I feel Marvel is doing a great job with the movies so far. The Thor films are the weakest imo, but his stories and worlds are understandably the hardest to translate to film. As a life long comic reader, I think Joss is doing a great and I'm more excited for Avengers: Age of Ultron than I have been for any movie in my life (the mid-credits scene from CA:TWS is going to make me very happy if rumors are true). This Cap film does look a bit darker, and apparently A:AoU will be darker too, and I'm fine with that. But I like me some of those corny one liners in there.

I suck at explaining things on here so I'm sure that comes off as an incoherent mess.
 

NMBC1993

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I think the reason they inject so much humor is because if the films take themselves too seriously, they might come off as ludicrous. This isn't like the serious Batman films where it's a normal guy in a cape judo chopping bad guys with the occassional, slightly unbelievable action. These are movies where we have an alien with a big hammer that shoots lightning, a WWII super soldier who was frozen for 70 years and survived, and a billionaire who flies around in armor equipped with rocket boots and lasers. Having a bit of levity will help entertain those who don't know squat about the comics. I've never heard a theater laugh so hard as they did when Hulk picked Loki up and beat him like a rag doll. Many were still laughing about it as we exited, too.

I feel Marvel is doing a great job with the movies so far. The Thor films are the weakest imo, but his stories and worlds are understandably the hardest to translate to film. As a life long comic reader, I think Joss is doing a great and I'm more excited for Avengers: Age of Ultron than I have been for any movie in my life (the mid-credits scene from CA:TWS is going to make me very happy if rumors are true). This Cap film does look a bit darker, and apparently A:AoU will be darker too, and I'm fine with that. But I like me some of those corny one liners in there.

I suck at explaining things on here so I'm sure that comes off as an incoherent mess.

First off, let me say I think you did a great job explaining your points and I can agree with you to an extent. I know everyone has their own tastes and I'm not apposed to comedy in a Marvel film. I thought every film in Phase 1 except for The Avengers did a great job of balancing humor and depth. My only problem as I stated before is it seems that Marvel has decided to tip the scale and ONLY put in humor. There is no depth to these films now, they have become the definition of "summer movies". I really wish Marvel would have went more The Incredible Hulk route (I loved Ed Norton's version of Bruce Banner) and tried to give their characters that extra layer.Tony Stark is an alcoholic, Hank Pym abused his wife, etc. there are deeper stories there, they just choose to have the professor from Thor run around in his underwear instead. Sure non comic book fans might have a hard time understanding certain things but that's why you make a film that does explain these things to them instead of just relying on comedy and shrugging your shoulders at big plot holes.

Anyway, just trying to show the other side of the coin, but I can definitely see where your coming from and Winter Solider does indeed look awesome.
 

StageFrenzy

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First off, let me say I think you did a great job explaining your points and I can agree with you to an extent. I know everyone has their own tastes and I'm not apposed to comedy in a Marvel film. I thought every film in Phase 1 except for The Avengers did a great job of balancing humor and depth. My only problem as I stated before is it seems that Marvel has decided to tip the scale and ONLY put in humor. There is no depth to these films now, they have become the definition of "summer movies". I really wish Marvel would have went more The Incredible Hulk route (I loved Ed Norton's version of Bruce Banner) and tried to give their characters that extra layer.Tony Stark is an alcoholic, Hank Pym abused his wife, etc. there are deeper stories there, they just choose to have the professor from Thor run around in his underwear instead. Sure non comic book fans might have a hard time understanding certain things but that's why you make a film that does explain these things to them instead of just relying on comedy and shrugging your shoulders at big plot holes.

Anyway, just trying to show the other side of the coin, but I can definitely see where your coming from and Winter Solider does indeed look awesome.

Ant-Man is going to be an action comedy, so be prepared to let it go. It will probably be more british action comedy vs vapid since Edgar Wright is writing/directing.
 

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