Bus spiels?

[bgraham34]

I would hate a spiel on the bus, then you end up hearing the same thing 40 times in 5 days because of how often i ride the bus.

 

[JEDIsney]

I have never personally had a problem with foreign bus drivers. I have had a few people who were obviously not from the United States, but I didn't have a problem understanding them or hearing what they were saying.

And then of course, there are the bus drivers who make the whole bus ride worth while by interacting with the guests and singing Disney songs and asking Disney trivia. But I'm sure with the bus spiels, the interactive bus drivers will still be able to do what they usually do.

So in the end, this bus spiel probably won't affect me too much. Unless it gets on my nerves, because I ride the transportation buses at least five times a day when I'm there.

 

[zone15int]

I would venture to say that putting prerecorded spiels on ANYTHING at WDW has far less to do with accents or noise, but with liability. Are you going to say the prerecorded loading spiels on rides are because of the CMs accents?

The monorail spiel is there for safety. That is why it is repeated in spanish. So no one can say "Well, gee, they didn't give any warnings to stand clear of the doors." They could have the monorail driver CMs repeat it over and over, but its easier (and better from a legal standpoint) to play a recording. Same applies for anything that would occur on the busses.

That also applies to attractions as well. Remember all the new warnings at Spaceship Earth. If you could open the windows on the busses there would probably be a "keep all blahblahblah in the vehicles at all times" spiel.

 

[pat_naughty05]

You may as well of said I am not racist but I will make a racist comment anyway! :hammer:
If you ran Disney Transport you would have been fired in 2mins for being racist, bringing the system to a standstill if they removed all people you didn't understand when they spoke, and for getting Disney in some deep legal and media crap.
The main job of these people is drive buses not be tour guides! Do they drive you safely to were you want to be? Yes! so they are doing their job. If they install a automated system it would be better as it would be a clear and standard, that way everyone can understand. Some southern american accents are hard for me to understand but I don't think that Disney should put them all in dish washing jobs because they have an accent I cant understand.

Woah, let's be calm here. At no point did I say these guys deserve mediocre jobs, but I do believe there are some jobs that are better suited for certain people. I have nothing wrong with immigrants or people with accents working with Disney, but I think that there are certain jobs that are better suited to those speaking fluent and comprehensible english. The idea of someone speaking on the bus to you and listening to a recording are very different. I enjoy the personal eperience of being spoken to. So, please take no offense to what I say, it is merely a personal opinion.

 

[Thrawn]

Woah, let's be calm here. At no point did I say these guys deserve mediocre jobs, but I do believe there are some jobs that are better suited for certain people. I have nothing wrong with immigrants or people with accents working with Disney, but I think that there are certain jobs that are better suited to those speaking fluent and comprehensible english. The idea of someone speaking on the bus to you and listening to a recording are very different. I enjoy the personal eperience of being spoken to. So, please take no offense to what I say, it is merely a personal opinion.

You are still relegating these "immigrants" (since we do not know if they are immigrants - there are a lot of people that are true US citizens that cannot speak english fluently) to second class citizens. Because they can't speak english they are only to have certain jobs?

 

[WeLComeHomE OKW]

This really disappoints me, just becuz even though i cant understand some of them, that makes it all the more fun. Some of the bus drivers ive had has been some of my best memories at disney world cuz they made the experience so enjoyable. thats my 2 cents, automated systems just dont seem as magical

 

[Thrawn]

This really disappoints me, just becuz even though i cant understand some of them, that makes it all the more fun. Some of the bus drivers ive had has been some of my best memories at disney world cuz they made the experience so enjoyable. thats my 2 cents, automated systems just dont seem as magical

Just because they might add an automated system doesn't mean that the drivers won't be able to talk at all.

 

[uklad79]

Woah, let's be calm here. At no point did I say these guys deserve mediocre jobs, but I do believe there are some jobs that are better suited for certain people. I have nothing wrong with immigrants or people with accents working with Disney, but I think that there are certain jobs that are better suited to those speaking fluent and comprehensible english. The idea of someone speaking on the bus to you and listening to a recording are very different. I enjoy the personal eperience of being spoken to. So, please take no offense to what I say, it is merely a personal opinion.

I find racism offensive and I am sure others do. At the end of the day reading your post makes me wonder how you can criticise the drivers accent when you have such appalling spelling. Seems ironic that my “immigrant” friends that work at Disney and have accents can still have better command of written English than your post displays! Does that mean that you are not suitable for job that involves writing and they are? Think about it then press “Submit Reply”

 

[Hakunamatata]

I personaly believe there are some jobs that should require the person to have a good grasp of the english language. Not sure if a Disney Bus Driver is one of them, but if, in an emergency situation, (say like the one that happened in Dallas with the elderly evacuees that burned to death on a bus) I would think that the driver would need to be able to communicate with the passangers.

 

[uklad79]

Just because they might add an automated system doesn't mean that the drivers won't be able to talk at all.

Sounds like some people on the forum would love Disney to employ mute bus drivers. :hammer:

 

[pat_naughty05]

You are still relegating these "immigrants" (since we do not know if they are immigrants - there are a lot of people that are true US citizens that cannot speak english fluently) to second class citizens. Because they can't speak english they are only to have certain jobs?

Actually, if you will read just a bit more carefully, I said immigrants OR people with accents. I will again say that I am not racist to any degree, but I just understand this a bit differently than others. I will also say that I've stated that this is just my opinion. By no means do I expect Disney to comply with my recommendations. I just think that employees with a speaking role, who are speaking mainly to english speaking Americans, should be a bit more fluent in that language. Surely, there are a vast number of job opportunities for those who speak fluently in other languages. I am sure that Disney uses translators throughout the entire resort. In that same way, I will say that english speaking Americans should probably not work as a spanish translator. Maybe that will show what I am truly trying to say. If they install a prerecorded message on the buses, I suppose that will not be a problem. I just like that more personal experience of being spoken to, not spoken at.

:brick: :hammer:

With that, I give up.

 

[uklad79]

I personaly believe there are some jobs that should require the person to have a good grasp of the english language. Not sure if a Disney Bus Driver is one of them, but if, in an emergency situation, (say like the one that happened in Dallas with the elderly evacuees that burned to death on a bus) I would think that the driver would need to be able to communicate with the passangers.

To say what? "get off the bus it's burning don't just sit their!" I think all bus drivers have passed some form of interview and tests in ENGLISH so I am sure they could cope in an emergency as they will have had some basic training maybe in first aid? I am sure if the guy didnt speak a work of English the people wouldnt just sit on the bus while it burned would they? I know I have met some dumb people at WDW but I would hope some people have a brain and wouldnt expect the bus driver to start making announcements if they crashed or set on fire its makes sense you get out! :hammer: :hammer:

 

[uklad79]

Actually, if you will read just a bit more carefully, I said immigrants OR people with accents. I will again say that I am not racist to any degree, but I just understand this a bit differently than others. I will also say that I've stated that this is just my opinion. By no means do I expect Disney to comply with my recommendations. I just think that employees with a speaking role, who are speaking mainly to english speaking Americans, should be a bit more fluent in that language. Surely, there are a vast number of job opportunities for those who speak fluently in other languages. I am sure that Disney uses translators throughout the entire resort. In that same way, I will say that english speaking Americans should probably not work as a spanish translator. Maybe that will show what I am truly trying to say. If they install a prerecorded message on the buses, I suppose that will not be a problem. I just like that more personal experience of being spoken to, not spoken at.

:brick: :hammer:

With that, I give up.

What? Disney has hundreds if not thousands of bus drivers; I highly doubt that they have the same number of translators! The fact that driving a bus in the happiest place on earth is not the best paid job on earth goes someway to explain why many drivers are from overseas I am sure many of them if offered to swap jobs with the higher paid translators would gladly except. I can see it now 10 bus drivers that can do trivia in any language bus not drive the hundreds of buses, and thousands of new translators wondering around the park with nothing to do except make up rumours of the 5<SUP>th</SUP> gate and then translate them into their native tongue and tell anyone that will listen in any language.
Thankfully you dont run WDW Transport and someone with a brain does :brick:

 

[Thrawn]

Actually, if you will read just a bit more carefully, I said immigrants OR people with accents.

Doesn't change what I said. You are still treating them as second class citizens.

I will again say that I am not racist to any degree, but I just understand this a bit differently than others.

You can say that, but saying that people you cannot fluently speak english shouldn't have certain anything is the mark of a racist.

I will also say that I've stated that this is just my opinion.

Just because it is your opinion doesn't make it unimpeachable.

By no means do I expect Disney to comply with my recommendations.

Good. They won't.

I just think that employees with a speaking role, who are speaking mainly to english speaking Americans, should be a bit more fluent in that language.

Every Cast Member must speak to guests when they are asked.

Surely, there are a vast number of job opportunities for those who speak fluently in other languages.

Yes, they are same that everyone else has. Anything else is discrimination.

I am sure that Disney uses translators throughout the entire resort. In that same way, I will say that english speaking Americans should probably not work as a spanish translator.

To be a translator, you have to be fluent in both.

Maybe that will show what I am truly trying to say.

Not that I can see.

If they install a prerecorded message on the buses, I suppose that will not be a problem. I just like that more personal experience of being spoken to, not spoken at.

I don't know what you are getting at with these statements.

:brick: :hammer:

With that, I give up.

Alrighty.

By the way, I should mention that I am an advocate for immigrants who want to become legal US citizens, and I do so on my own time and at my own cost. If you are going to continue to come back and forth with me for this, I will continue it.

 

[Hakunamatata]

To say what? "get off the bus it's burning don't just sit their!" I think all bus drivers have passed some form of interview and tests in ENGLISH so I am sure they could cope in an emergency as they will have had some basic training maybe in first aid? I am sure if the guy didnt speak a work of English the people wouldnt just sit on the bus while it burned would they? I know I have met some dumb people at WDW but I would hope some people have a brain and wouldnt expect the bus driver to start making announcements if they crashed or set on fire its makes sense you get out! :hammer: :hammer:

Your not very bright.....are you.

 

[Shaman]

Your not very bright.....are you.

Who knows...but he does make a point. Adults shouldn't expect to be taken by the hand and escorted out when there's trouble. And personally I've NEVER met a bus driver that couldn't say simple words in an emergency. All that being said, your particular example of the bus filled with seniors in Texas, is a different situation all together, one that perhaps the Disney bus driver will never face....although I'm sure bus drivers are trained for different sorts of emergencies...or at least I hope...:lookaroun...

I just think that employees with a speaking role, who are speaking mainly to english speaking Americans, should be a bit more fluent in that language.

Umm...don't forget WDW is in Florida. Spanish is a major language in the state and to a certain degree one must not dismiss it nationally either. The fact is that these people are attempting to adapt to a new country, a new language, all while working a job (most of these people speak Spanish primarily, while others come from other parts of the world). Some people are better at it than others....give them a break...like I said in a previous post...MOST PEOPLE DON'T LISTEN TO THE DRIVERS ANYWAY....

I think these people speak enough English that Disney gives them the go-ahead to drive their busses. If Disney felt it was unsafe and/or inconvenient for their guest...they wouldn't put these people in that position.

NOW...if they do put bus spiels in (for whatever the reason), I would hope they address the problems with the speakers on some of the buses...

 

[Hakunamatata]

Who knows...but he does make a point

Oh, I agree he made a point, but my comment was not soley based toward bus drivers.

I personaly believe there are some jobs that should require the person to have a good grasp of the english language.

I simply used the tragedy on the bus in Dallas as an example. Maybe a better example would be a pilot or airline attendant. But my point is a valid one. There are some situations that it is imperative that clear communication is vital. Maybe a bus burning is not a good situation. What if there was a some type of danger that the bus driver would need to communicate and he could not. Could you see things getting out of hand because of the failure of the ability to communicate. I could.

 

[Shaman]

Oh, I agree he made a point, but my comment was not soley based toward bus drivers.



I simply used the tragedy on the bus in Dallas as an example. Maybe a better example would be a pilot or airline attendant. But my point is a valid one. There are some situations that it is imperative that clear communication is vital. Maybe a bus burning is not a good situation. What if there was a some type of danger that the bus driver would need to communicate and he could not. Could you see things getting out of hand because of the failure of the ability to communicate. I could.

I agree that there are some jobs where clear communication is important. And I think Disney bus drivers can and do communicate clearly; if they couldn't Disney would not put them in the driver's seat. I mean some people blame accents for not being able to understand bus drivers...but there are other factors which could contribute to this issue...bus noise (both mechanical and loud guests)...hearing problems...speaker problems, mic problems...etc etc etc....

 

[Hakunamatata]

I agree that there are some jobs where clear communication is important. And I think Disney bus drivers can and do communicate clearly; if they couldn't Disney would not put them in the driver's seat. I mean some people blame accents for not being able to understand bus drivers...but there are other factors which could contribute to this issue...bus noise (both mechanical and loud guests)...hearing problems...speaker problems, mic problems...etc etc etc....

Agreed.

 

[MickeyTigg]

I will again say that I am not racist to any degree, but I just understand this a bit differently than others. I will also say that I've stated that this is just my opinion.

It sure sounds at least prejudiced and borderline racist to me and a few others from what I'm reading.

By no means do I expect Disney to comply with my recommendations.

Then why say it?

I just think that employees with a speaking role, who are speaking mainly to english speaking Americans, should be a bit more fluent in that language. Surely, there are a vast number of job opportunities for those who speak fluently in other languages.

I have never had a problem understanding any of the bus drivers. Yes, some have a heavy accent. You need to also remember that WDW is an international vacation destination...should all bus drivers speak French, German, Portuguese, Chinese and Japanese too?