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News Bruce Vaughn Returns to Disney as Co-Lead of Walt Disney Imagineering
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peter11435
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This was the original quote I was referring to.
But yes communicore hall and Tiana were significantly designed under her leadership.
peter11435
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Tha Realest
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Huh? Where has it been said or noted her reputation or charge was to “rein in costs?” Most of the criticism has been for the sort of soulless, beige/grey melange from the Gensler projects she spearheaded that seems to have taken hold in corporate architecture and seeped into WDI design choices in recent years.
Epcot81Fan
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Rhode also famously gave us the inspiring creativity of:
"Hey, I'm a raccoon and don't have hands! YOU have hands! I need your hands to open the thingamajig to unleash the hoozywhatzie!!! Raise your hands so they can be scanned or something!!! RAISE YOUR HANDS!!!"
Ah yes, classic Joe.
(Or wait, maybe somebody in "management" wrote that....
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"Hey, I'm a raccoon and don't have hands! YOU have hands! I need your hands to open the thingamajig to unleash the hoozywhatzie!!! Raise your hands so they can be scanned or something!!! RAISE YOUR HANDS!!!"
Ah yes, classic Joe.
(Or wait, maybe somebody in "management" wrote that....
)
Smiley/OCD
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AFAIK, NOBODY has a 1000 batting average…after that fiasco (which while we adults don’t like, the little ones did), he DID go on to a phenomenal career at TWDC.
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JoeCamel
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I thought he went to Tibet after that......
Epcot81Fan
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Epcot81Fan
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“As I sat on that bench watching my daughters have fun, I thought, there ought to be a place where adults realize the design and attractions are complete crap, but little kids are too young to understand and think it’s fun”
- Walt Disney
I can hear that conversation:
Rohde: A huge dinosaur land with a classic trackless dark ride, an epic roller coaster, and a walk-through experience that will have brave people quivering and cowards screaming for their mothers. It'll cost $350 million.
Suits: You can have $135 million.
Rohde: OK, you get a dark ride/roller coaster combo, a spinning wild maus, and a bunch of carney games.
JoeCamel
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Yeah, a copy and paste of his ear decoration. He reportedly wasn't happy with the assignment
RSoxNo1
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Joe Rohde was very likely forced to do that project and did the best he could with it. I can't imagine this was something he came up with without a significant level of restrictions in place.
RSoxNo1
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I flat out reject this premise. His projects have had consistent "Disney timelines". His budgets have elicited more bang for the buck then pretty much anything Disney has done in recent history. Look at the attendance boosts generated by Everest and Pandora or the remarkably quick timeline for Mission Breakout.
RSoxNo1
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You're not far off, but budget absolutely matters. Management doesn't get enough support at times for fully funding a project to make it great.
Remarkably quick turnaround time, limited budget and a better attraction than the original.
Stitchon
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Tom Morris discussed this project on a podcast a while back, and described it specifically as a decision executives forced on Imagineers for synergy as GOTG2 opened up. While that's not necessarily an excuse for execution, it's not like it was something dreamt up as a passion project by Joe Rohde.
In the same podcast, Tom Morris also said that they spent enough on Mission Breakout to build another attraction, which is part of why he disagreed with the idea - spending that kind of money on something that is not a capacity gain is a waste. Tony Baxter defended it as a "plussing" sort of scenario, given that DCA's Tower of Terror didn't measure up to the original.
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MerlinTheGoat
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Yeah, I don't get why people trash Joe for that. Executive leadership slashed the hell out of Animal Kingdom's budget following the financial failure of Disneyland Paris, it's a miracle it turned out as impressive and high quality as it did. The original concept was incredible. The Asian boat safari Tiger River was reduced to the off the shelf rapids ride Kali River. Beastly Kingdom was cut outright. Dinoland lost the Excavator coaster, along with a far more elaborate Countdown to Extinction that would have had a unique layout from Indiana Jones and even gone outside for an extended section. These cuts continued on as well, CTE had even further cuts with a bunch of never-completed scenes that are relegated to entirely dark areas in the final version. I'm sure there are a bunch of other cut attractions i'm forgetting. I think Tree of Life was also supposed to have a different and more elaborate show at one point before the 3D movie was settled on.
I'm the last person to defend Dinorama. I think it's a horrible hideous and tacky stain on an otherwise gorgeous park. But i'd be willing to bet that Joe is just as unhappy with it as anyone else. It was designed specifically as a temporary land that could be easily scrapped whenever Disney approved a replacement. Something tacked on last second to satiate the bean counters who wanted something cheap and kiddy. A replacement that has yet to happen unfortunately because Joe doesn't have control over that decision. Even with him gone, they still won't commit to anything.
Disney Analyst
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Again. They are just people, artists, designers, technicians, trades people; all doing the best work they can under the parameters placed upon them by the real decision makers.
Smiley/OCD
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That’s those left coast folks that thought “The Twilight Zone” was old and worn out…
Rohde still at Virgin Galactic & Disney? Seems like he’s laughing all the way to the bank with two paychecks ! With Bruce now in charge and Barbara gone if Disney doesn’t replace Barbara that’s a salary savings right there !