Bring AE back

dxwwf3

Well-Known Member
Stitchfan712 said:
You're on-topic in this pickin'-on-disney thread. :D

I thought the topic was about bringing back Alien Encounter and how much everyone wishes this would happen.......... :lookaroun Ok maybe how a few of us wish it would happen :animwink:
 

TikiBears

New Member
Like ive said before...
For Disney, its not about which is a better attraction: AE vs SGE
Its about which sells more merchandise. There IS a clear winner...
 

PurpleDragon

Well-Known Member
TikiBears said:
Like ive said before...
For Disney, its not about which is a better attraction: AE vs SGE
Its about which sells more merchandise. There IS a clear winner...

Well yeah, who would wanna buy a plush doll of a huge slimey ugly alien or Chairman Clench.
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
PurpleDragon said:
Well yeah, who would wanna buy a plush doll of a huge slimey ugly alien or Chairman Clench.
Maybe not a plush... but I always wanted an action figure or model of the alien so could see what the darn thing looked like.
 

PurpleDragon

Well-Known Member
TikiBears said:
If your looking for Alien Encounter action figures look on ebay. There are some on there now as well as attraction seats from the ride.
Woooo hoooo!! Sweeeeettt!!!!:sohappy: (browsing ebay while typing this post)
 

NemoRocks78

Seized
Legacy said:
Maybe not a plush... but I always wanted an action figure or model of the alien so could see what the darn thing looked like.
They sold them in Merchants of Venus....got my hands on them before they became extinct....
 

Lee

Adventurer
Legacy said:
Maybe not a plush... but I always wanted an action figure or model of the alien so could see what the darn thing looked like.

Yeah, I got the one with the alien figure in the chamber. I'll probably never take it out of the chamber...it just looks cool in there.
 

General Grizz

New Member
I have a slew of AE merchandise purchased at the Character Warehouse near St. Augustine.

"I never thought these aliens would sell until now!" said the Cast Member.

That brings my collection to a Skippy plush (one of the last purchased at the MK), a bendable Alien, keychain, tall glass, and pen.
 

NemoRocks78

Seized
I picked up the keychain there....

My AE merchandise consists of two shirts, the SIR - Normal Skippy - Fried Skippy figure set, Alien figure, plush Skippy, keychain, and the "large," bendable Alien.
 

dxwwf3

Well-Known Member
Well why we are on the subject...I've got 3 shirts (two of which is a LITTLE small now considering I got them in middle school), I have 2 nice pins (both are the regular logo pins), 3 old pins, the Alien action figure still in the tube, a keychain, a trading card (tough to find the specific AE one), a Skippy hand puppet, and a lifetime of memories.

That's all I got from AE :)
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
On my last trip to WDW, I knew it could my very last experience of AE. So, I bought a skippy plush toy, a SIR action figure, Skippy and fried sippy figues, and an alien action figure ( which fell apart right when I opened the container :mad: ) I also had a very cool AE shirt, but my dad hid it somwhere because he thought it made me look too gothic. :rolleyes: Oh well, my most prized posetion of all these things is the memories. Thanks AE!
 

Lee

Adventurer
Yeah, in addition to my alien figure, I've got a Skippy plush and a WDI shirt. Maybe I need to get one of those old seats.....
 

TikiBears

New Member
Lee, take it from me, the seats are a nice collectible. I purchased one directly and i had my pick of the litter out of hundreds of them. They have seen better days tho. And they look EXACTLY like they've had a million azzez sitting on them- which they have. Just letting you know chief...
 

HennieBogan1966

Account Suspended
There seems to be a lot of commentary on this issue with regard to Disney and their mediocrity when it comes to their investment in attractions. I for one, see things a bit differently.

We can debate how much $$$ is in the till, but the bottom line is, no matter what arm of the company it comes from, all the money winds up in the same till eventually.

So, having said that, you have to make a choice. When it comes to attractions, and storylines, you have to set a budget obviously. Now, had Disney said, we're going to spend 2/3 million on a new attraction, all new AA's new digital video tech,. new sound tech, etc. would that have made everyone happy?

Or, after soft reviews and openings, if it turns out that it's not a GREAT ride, would everyone say, geez, they wasted that 3 mill, when they could have paid their people more money, and stuck with what they had in place?

You can't always have it both ways. Disney, I'm sure, did what they thought best, given the budget, and technology they had in place. Is that to say that I am for mediocrity? NO. And I would certainly be one of their harshest critics. But it seems like the company always tends to get a bad rap from people NOT in the positions of leadership that have to make those decisions. IT's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback and say, "Here's what I would have done." But you AREN'T there. And you DON'T know what they are having to deal with in regards to budgets, timeframes, etc.

So, before you judge how this attraction or any attraction for that matter turns out, look at it from all angles. Again, the Wife and I enjoyed AE alot but didn't see how it fit in where it was. Or how it's storyline really fit the "Disney" concept. Yes, it was original. But NO, it WASN'T Disney. Exactly what history did those characters have with Disney? What movie were they in? How did they fit in?

That's not to say that every attraction must fit those criteria, but you get my point. I think they were looking for an opportunity to capitalize on the popularity of the movie sales, merchandise sales, etc. THAT I understand.
Again, it's a business first and foremost. I for one, like the idea of SGE.
Listen, if they're going to take away my fav's, like IYHW, Mr. Toad, CoP, then at least give us something that was from a very good movie, with a very good story line to ride on.

Let me ask this: How many of you out there go on the Swiss Family Tree House?

Get the point of that one?
 

Indy95

New Member
This should be interesting:

HennieBogan1966 said:
We can debate how much $$$ is in the till, but the bottom line is, no matter what arm of the company it comes from, all the money winds up in the same till eventually.
This is why the parks are getting pinched by the execs. The Theme Park division is getting its spending $$ cut because other areas of the company such as ABC and Go.com keep dropping the ball and vacuuming up money! (Not to mention DCA, but that's another story for another time)

HennieBogan1966 said:
Now, had Disney said, we're going to spend 2/3 million on a new attraction, all new AA's new digital video tech,. new sound tech, etc. would that have made everyone happy?
WHOA, I sure hope not! That can't be what SGE actually cost! I mean, Tarzan's Treehouse got $6 million, for crying out loud! I really hope you weren't talking about SGE here, because it must have cost AT LEAST $20 million. (And the incredibly boring Winnie the Pooh ride at DL cost north of $40 million!)

HennieBogan1966 said:
Disney, I'm sure, did what they thought best, given the budget, and technology they had in place.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! HeheheheheHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh man. Excuse me. But...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What I'm trying to say here is, GOD I HOPE NOT! So do you also think that "Disney did what they thought best given the budget and the technology" when they built Journey Into YOUR Imagination? Or DCA? Yeah, great move there! (Where's all the people? And why are we getting so many complaints? Don't these idiots understand that we "did our best" with the budget and technology?)
The point is, straight out: NO THEY DIDN'T!!! You see, the public isn't stupid. They don't give a rat's behind WHAT your budget is, or WHAT technology you have available, or WHAT your construction time frame is. All they see is "bad show." Simple as that. And that's what they're seeing at SGE. Simple as that.

HennieBogan1966 said:
IT's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback and say, "Here's what I would have done." But you AREN'T there. And you DON'T know what they are having to deal with in regards to budgets, timeframes, etc.
And that's a shame! Because I'm 100% POSITIVE that MOST of the people on these boards alone know more about Disney and what Disney is about than any of these feckless executives. The point is, there should NOT be a budget that the creatives should "worry about" (ie hey we have to cut that segment out because management won't give up the extra $2 out of the budget!), and there should NOT be a timeframe that the creatives should worry about.
The Haunted Mansion was in development for OVER A DECADE! And now it's one of the most beloved attractions of all time. This didn't happen by accident! It happened because the Imagineers did NOT have a budget to worry about, and they CERTAINLY did NOT have a timeframe to worry about! And now, HM has been a tent-pole attraction since it opened in 1969 and its merchandise potentials (only being vaguely realized now) are making more $$ for the company than ever!

HennieBogan1966 said:
So, before you judge how this attraction or any attraction for that matter turns out, look at it from all angles.
I think when the public unanimously agrees, "It blows," that's all the angles you need to look at.

HennieBogan1966 said:
Again, the Wife and I enjoyed AE alot but didn't see how it fit in where it was. Or how it's storyline really fit the "Disney" concept. Yes, it was original. But NO, it WASN'T Disney. Exactly what history did those characters have with Disney? What movie were they in? How did they fit in?
Oh yeah, and what history did the characters from Carousel of Progress have with Disney when it first opened? What movie were the dolls in Small World in? How did those ghosts from Haunted Mansion "fit in?" I'm sure you've heard of them now! I'm sure they fit in now! I'm sure that they have a history with Disney now! They're ONLY the most popular attractions in the history of the themed park.

HennieBogan1966 said:
I think they were looking for an opportunity to capitalize on the popularity of the movie sales, merchandise sales, etc. THAT I understand. Again, it's a business first and foremost. I for one, like the idea of SGE. Listen, if they're going to take away my fav's, like IYHW, Mr. Toad, CoP, then at least give us something that was from a very good movie, with a very good story line to ride on.
Well, first of all, everyone agrees that SGE had a terrible storyline.
Second...sigh. OK, I'll play along here. Yes, it's a business. BUT, it was BUSINESS THAT WAS FOUNDED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF HOLDING ITSELF TO HIGHER STANDARDS AND TAKING RISKS! Not to capitalize on fading trends!!
Look, Classsic (like the "old-school" Disney attractions) is classic because it never goes out of style. The Goal MUST be to make everything you make classic. THE PARKS ARE THERE FOREVER. Quick-fixes (ie SGE) are fiction. People who propose them are liars trying to get ahead at the expense of the long-term. Their loyalty is to themselves.

It's simple: do not follow trends. Get the best people. Get the best out of thm by trusting them. When you follow trends (which, on the whole of human history, has NEVER worked) you are telling the public (who is NOT beneath you) that you do not trust your creatives. This is bad.

HennieBogan1966 said:
Let me ask this: How many of you out there go on the Swiss Family Tree House?

Get the point of that one?
Yes, I get it. You're saying that the executives in charge of the parks are so blind and cheap that they can't even pony up the few pennies necessary to update a beloved attraction that's crumbling down around them, instead investing money in sure-fail quick-fixes like "Under New Management" and "Dino-Rama," and thereby discouraging people from visiting said beloved attraction. Good point.
 

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