Bob Iger treated Disneyland with kid gloves — but took a sledgehammer to the ill-conceived DCA - OCR/SCNG

Darkbeer1

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How the Bob Iger era changed Disneyland forever – Orange County Register (ocregister.com)

How the Bob Iger era changed Disneyland forever


The Disney executive chairman and former CEO treated Disneyland with kid gloves — with one major exception — but took a sledgehammer to the ill-conceived, on-the-cheap and much-maligned Disney California Adventure.​


>>Across the esplanade, Iger wasn’t as kind as he took a sledgehammer to the ill-conceived, on-the-cheap and much-maligned Disney California Adventure. Iger never minced words about the failure of DCA that he charitably called “mediocre.” Many of the offending off-the-shelf rides and much of the pun-filled pop culture veneer was mercifully removed or re-themed during Iger’s tenure.

A wholesale reimagining of DCA that turned the park into a construction site for several years was rewarded with a leap in attendance — nearly doubling from 5.8 million visitors in 2005 to 9.9 million in 2019.

Iger’s first move at DCA in 2006 was a symbolic shot across the bow. The Monsters Inc. Mike & Sulley to the Rescue dark ride replaced what many consider to be the worst Disney attraction ever created — Superstar Limo.

A year later, Iger lowered the boom. He announced Disney California Adventure would undergo a $1.1 billion redesign and expansion — nearly double the $600 million Disney spent to build the park.

Toy Story Midway Mania (2008) was followed by World of Color (2010) and Little Mermaid: Ariel’s Undersea Adventure (2011). Then in 2012, Cars Land opened along with a new entry promenade dubbed Buena Vista Street.

To boost excitement and attendance during the Iger era, DCA hosted a series of nightly dance parties that proved wildly successful — including Glow Fest (2009), Electronica (2010) and Mad T Party (2012).

After little more than a decade in existence, the reborn DCA was almost unrecognizable from its 2001 opening day misadventure. But that was only act one for Iger.

DCA’s transformation continued with the addition of “Frozen — Live at the Hyperion” (2016), Soarin’ Around the World (2016), Guardians of the Galaxy — Mission: Breakout (2017) and the transformation of Pixar Pier (2018).

The final act in DCA’s metamorphosis — at least under Iger — is yet to come. The new Marvel-themed Avengers Campus is scheduled to debut in 2021.

The 15-year rebirth of Disney California Adventure under Iger’s watch is a redemptive cautionary tale about what happens when Disney violates its own theme park design principles by cutting corners and the amount of work it takes to repair those missteps and mistakes.<<
 

CaptinEO

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My issue with late career Iger is that his need for "new" things constantly in each parks has led to giant investments, and then cheap investments to offset the large projects.

In nearly every case he would be better off for not bothering with the low tier "new" stuff (Avengers Campus/ Pixar Pier/ Guardians/ Toy Story Land). If his legacy was only Cars Land, Pandora, and Star Wars Land, that'd be pretty impressive in my eyes.

But he had to have more of his IP infusion and toy sales and synergy without the proper investment into doing so.

The synergy is also how Disneyland has a giant percentage of its square footage dedicated to Star Wars The Last Jedi.

New for the sake of new is how we ended up with DCA 3.0, when the 2.0 version that Bob himself made had very little complaints.
 

J4546

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I like DCA lol, guess Im in the minority but DCA now for me is a great sister park to DL. I cant wait to see the new avengers area, as I though Bugs Land was a terrible and cheap use of the space. Pixar pier is fine to me as well I just wish theyd finish are theme the northern half as pixar as well., Im not a huge fan of the incredicoaster overlay but the coaster itself is really good imo.
 

choco choco

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"Bob Iger treated Disneyland with kid gloves — but took a sledgehammer to the ill-conceived DCA"

What kind of stupid, inaccurate headline is this? Most of the old DCA is still there, intact. The only thing that could be considered "sledgehammered" was the 400 feet of shops lining the entry path - and even then the buildings were kept intact and really only the facades changed. Everything else that was there: Grizzly Peak, Paradise Pier, Hollywood Backlot - remains essentially unchanged. Things have been nipped and tucked into the huge gobs of empty space the park used to contain(World of Color and Ariel) but the one large addition - Cars Land - did not require any demolition, seeing as it was built on an asphalt car park.

What did require a lot of sledgehammering was: rerouting a bend of a river flattening a berm and deforesting the trees on it; taking away horse stables; actual demolition of warehouse buildings, showspace, and river float storage; laying down a new railroad route; and a hundred other destructive moves, each of them way beyond what could be considered "kid gloves." If anything, DCA has been the one kid-gloved and more in need of a sledgehammer, and Disneyland in need of spit-shine and white glove treatment, instead of the middle finger Iger gave it.

Try harder, OC Register.
 

el_super

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He made it nicer but then went too far and took out the stuff that was already good about it and didn't need changing.

.... ?

There was (maybe still is) a massive disconnect between what internet fans think DCA needed and what the guests were actually telling them in visitor surveys. The fans were complaining about the cheap carnival rides, garish colors and stucco walls, while the real guests were telling them they wanted to meet more Disney characters and have more attractions geared toward children.

Nothing has changed about the direction DCA has undertaken since 2007. Maybe the definition of what is Disney has changed a little, but it's still the same concept of bringing people more IP.

He had a similar trajectory as Eisner. Started out big and made grand investments but ended his career with cheap carnival fare.

Eisner thought the Disney brand was powerful enough to grow the audience. That there was somehow this untapped market of people that didn't care for the traditional Disney experience, but would become fans if they offered those things. Sort of like McDonald's offering up salads. That was the real core issue with DCA from the beginning, not really the amount invested in it.

I'd be really curious to hear why Iger's strategy of selling hamburgers at a hamburger stand suddenly feels like it's failing?
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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.... ?

There was (maybe still is) a massive disconnect between what internet fans think DCA needed and what the guests were actually telling them in visitor surveys. The fans were complaining about the cheap carnival rides, garish colors and stucco walls, while the real guests were telling them they wanted to meet more Disney characters and have more attractions geared toward children.

Nothing has changed about the direction DCA has undertaken since 2007. Maybe the definition of what is Disney has changed a little, but it's still the same concept of bringing people more IP.



Eisner thought the Disney brand was powerful enough to grow the audience. That there was somehow this untapped market of people that didn't care for the traditional Disney experience, but would become fans if they offered those things. Sort of like McDonald's offering up salads. That was the real core issue with DCA from the beginning, not really the amount invested in it.

I'd be really curious to hear why Iger's strategy of selling hamburgers at a hamburger stand suddenly feels like it's failing?
And yet it was the success of old school styled Imagineering of Cars Land and Buena Vista Street that brought in the crowds.
 

flynnibus

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Eisner thought the Disney brand was powerful enough to grow the audience. That there was somehow this untapped market of people that didn't care for the traditional Disney experience, but would become fans if they offered those things. Sort of like McDonald's offering up salads. That was the real core issue with DCA from the beginning, not really the amount invested in it.

It was a concept that continues to this day.. and is needed if you hope to continue to drive growth. The Cruise Lines weren't theme parks... and were wildly successful. Why? Because they oozed Disney quality and class - they had a product vision that fit the expectations customers had for a Disney product. Disney continues to pitch and experiment with adult-focused or non-traditional theme park experiences.

DCA was done on the cheap - and people saw right through it. It was cheap AND not in line with what customers expected from a Disney product. It was an exaggeration of all the bad aspects that people normally accept as the minority in a product... but instead they became the headliners.

No one said they really wish the bakery tour had donald in it... or thought 'man, this burger would be so much better if it used a Disney pun instead of a California pun....'

The park missed the target, cut way too many corners, had a dillusioned ticket strategy, and was right across the plaza from the best theme park in the world. Half-assed wasn't going to cut it there.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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Since 2015, they've just been cutting corners with a park that already cut corners. Maybe they should call it Disney's Cutting Corners Adventure. They haven't invested in any major attractions aside from the unopened possibly disappointing Spider-Man ride. Pixar Pier is a duct taped land. The E Tickets like Tower of Terror and Screaming have been repurposed pretty poorly.
 

el_super

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DCA was done on the cheap - and people saw right through it.

It's way too easy to fall into the trap of thinking that's the one and only problem with DCA. They could have fixed a park that was opened cheaply, if they felt the core concept was sound. They could have added more anti-Disney attractions like Tower of Terror such as Rock N Roller Coaster or Test Track, but they decided to spent a billion dollars on the movie CARS instead.

The Cruise Line kind of proves the point. Could you imagine a Disney cruise with no Disney IP?
 

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