News Bob Iger talks about attendance declines, ticket pricing, the feud with Ron DeSantis, and his huge optimism for Disney Parks and Resorts

TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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lentesta said:
In March, my understanding was that WDI didn't have the staff to generate enough ideas to present to the board for funding. They didn't have people or money.

I don't think they've gone from that to "here's stuff that we can open in the next 42 months, tops"

The best they might be able to do is announce clones of C- and D-ticket attractions from other parks around the world. But even then, wouldn't we have heard something about that?
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Well, that sucks - guess serves me right for wanting to give them the benefit of the doubt

Though makes Iger's comments ring even more hallow
 
Dranth

Dranth

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TheMaxRebo said:
Well, that sucks - guess serves me right for wanting to give them the benefit of the doubt

Though makes Iger's comments ring even more hallow
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Oh I am sure they are going to invest tons of money and have all kinds of plans to announce next year, it will just mostly be in the cruise line and the Disneyland forward project.
 
el_super

el_super

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Dranth said:
Oh I am sure they are going to invest tons of money and have all kinds of plans to announce next year, it will just mostly be in the cruise line and the Disneyland forward project.
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I actually think they are getting ready to invest. They brought Bruce back for a reason.
 
AEfx

AEfx

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Dranth said:
Which makes sense, those weren't good movies and the success of content released post prequals tells me that the damage wasn't as bad as it could have been. As bad as they were though, they didn't lose money so I don't throw them in the same category as something like an Indy 5 which looks like it is going to bomb completely despite being a better movie.
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Agreed, but I do think the taint is there - because of what it could have been.

I said it on these boards over a decade ago, when the absolute gob-smacking news came that there was going to be a sequel trilogy. I championed Disney taking it over, because they said all the right things. And no one was more posed than Disney to have the resources that Lucasfilm didn't.

In the end, of course, now we know - the "story group" that was going to make sure this was all so perfect and wonderful, wasn't allowed to do the very one thing they most needed to do - which was tie the new trilogy itself together. Instead, Kennedy was too scared that the hot-shot directors she wanted wouldn't want to work on the ST if they had a pre-determined story, so they let them wing it - and the rest, unfortunately, is history.

So no, they didn't destroy Star Wars, but it was the biggest missed opportunity in pop culture history. I'd swear today on a stack of holocrons that I still firmly believe what I said back then - all they needed to do to satisfy me, and many other folks, was show us Luke, Han, and Leia in a new adventure where they save the galaxy, again. I didn't care what they did with new characters, or have any preference for nearly anything about how they did it - just show me my childhood heroes flying through space on an adventure again. And I would have been thrilled, and would still be buying merch of it.

Instead...yeah, you know the rest.

The reason Star Wars didn't go down the toilet after that has been the TV shows, which is why it is a shame that some aspects of the "fandom" are turning against them, in spite of the fact they are the highest rated stuff on Disney+ and clearly are extremely popular.
 
SirLink

SirLink

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lentesta said:
In March, my understanding was that WDI didn't have the staff to generate enough ideas to present to the board for funding. They didn't have people or money.

I don't think they've gone from that to "here's stuff that we can open in the next 42 months, tops"

The best they might be able to do is announce clones of C- and D-ticket attractions from other parks around the world. But even then, wouldn't we have heard something about that?
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To counter that slightly there is enough projects on shelves designed for expansion pads that haven't been touched to build up and down the scale. They won't because something that was designed in 2008 at WDI prices @ $250million would most likely cost $750million based on how they calculate costs now...
 
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Serpico Jones

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monothingie said:
TLJ significantly underperformed TFA. ROS did even worse.

Return of Skywalker Palpatine grossed $1.07B and had an estimated budget of $275M. Initial estimates showed the film netted $300M.

It was later revealed in UK tax filings prior to all the post work being complete, that the actual production cost was around $420M. Using that number and not accounting for the cost of any additional post production work, the film had to clear $1.05B just to break even.

Not good.
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The huge budget for the disaster that was Rise of Skywalker doesn’t surprise me. Both of the JJ Abrams SW films were completely reshot. They literally filmed two movies and stitched them together each time.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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Again, so many spot on comments here from posters already. But I just watched the CNBC interview in its entirety and this hit me...

Whoever is crafting Bob's talking points and messaging isn't doing this right. Bob came off in this interview as oddly out of touch and fairly elitist. The elitism is a tone he has masked nicely in the past as a card carrying member of the American Elite who lives a life of extreme luxury and decadence, but it suddenly came through in this interview at least a few times. Oops.

He also talks as though he was lost at sea for 5 years and must now work hard to rebuild the life he had. He was on hiatus for 11 months. All of the stuff he listed as liabilities or concerns he now needs to work on and "fix" were things he crafted and shepherded into reality before he took an 11 month sabbatical.

Is anyone buying it from Bob this time? Cause I'm not. 🧐
 
WorldExplorer

WorldExplorer

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TP2000 said:
Again, so many spot on comments here from posters already. But I just watched the CNBC interview in its entirety and this hit me...

Whoever is crafting Bob's talking points and messaging isn't doing this right. Bob came off in this interview as oddly out of touch and fairly elitist. The elitism is a tone he has masked nicely in the past as a card carrying member of the American Elite who lives a life of extreme luxury and decadence, but it suddenly came through in this interview at least a few times. Oops.

He also talks as though he was lost at sea for 5 years and must now work hard to rebuild the life he had. He was on hiatus for 11 months. All of the stuff he listed as liabilities or concerns he now needs to work on and "fix" were things he crafted and shepherded into reality before he took an 11 month sabbatical.

Is anyone buying it from Bob this time? Cause I'm not. 🧐
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Disney's PR team never makes them look right, intelligent, or even just nice.

If I sucked so badly at MY job I'd be fired.
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
TP2000 said:
Again, so many spot on comments here from posters already. But I just watched the CNBC interview in its entirety and this hit me...

Whoever is crafting Bob's talking points and messaging isn't doing this right. Bob came off in this interview as oddly out of touch and fairly elitist. The elitism is a tone he has masked nicely in the past as a card carrying member of the American Elite who lives a life of extreme luxury and decadence, but it suddenly came through in this interview at least a few times. Oops.

He also talks as though he was lost at sea for 5 years and must now work hard to rebuild the life he had. He was on hiatus for 11 months. All of the stuff he listed as liabilities or concerns he now needs to work on and "fix" were things he crafted and shepherded into reality before he took an 11 month sabbatical.

Is anyone buying it from Bob this time? Cause I'm not. 🧐
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Nope. Not buying it at all.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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lentesta said:
In March, my understanding was that WDI didn't have the staff to generate enough ideas to present to the board for funding. They didn't have people or money.

I don't think they've gone from that to "here's stuff that we can open in the next 42 months, tops"

The best they might be able to do is announce clones of C- and D-ticket attractions from other parks around the world. But even then, wouldn't we have heard something about that?
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I don't foresee anything of note occurring until D23 2024. Nevermind the turmoil or that Destination D has never been a venue that anything of substance occurs, the capital expenditure pot won't really be reopened properly until fiscal 2025. Meaning certainly the board can start approving things next summer with announcements in Sept at D23.

I understand the appetite at least 'appears' to be there, but until streaming stops vacuuming up the investment, which still needs to carry through to Hulu, they can't really open the parks spigot.

I do wonder what the heck is up with this Marvel ride though. Can be look forward to it being 'announced' for essentially a fourth time?
 
SamusAranX

SamusAranX

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BrianLo said:
I don't foresee anything of note occurring until D23 2024. Nevermind the turmoil or that Destination D has never been a venue that anything of substance occurs, the capital expenditure pot won't really be reopened properly until fiscal 2025. Meaning certainly the board can start approving things next summer with announcements in Sept at D23.

I understand the appetite at least 'appears' to be there, but until streaming stops vacuuming up the investment, which still needs to carry through to Hulu, they can't really open the parks spigot.

I do wonder what the heck is up with this Marvel ride though. Can be look forward to it being 'announced' for essentially a fourth time?
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Was WDW supposed to get another marvel ride??
 

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