Bob Chapek's response to Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill

[Tony the Tigger]

No. I was commenting on your hypothetical scenario in which a child is being teased by another child about having a gay sibling. Normally, the teacher who becomes aware of such behavior would refer the situation to guidance, who would then (after some initial fact-finding) get the parents involved if necessary.

Fair enough.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Parents don’t trust schools and by extension teachers. This bill is popular with parents since they don’t believe teachers are doing what’s best for their kids.

That’s not an answer. What does it actually accomplish? What loop hole does it close? What gap does it fill? What process does it change? Give us the specifics of how this bill opens up the process and enables parents to be more involved in curriculum development and aware of its use.

 

[CaptinEO]

Interesting if true.

This is the definition of a planned event, Accounts changing their logos, everything happening at the same day/time.

No way is this some weird coincidence.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This is the definition of a planned event, Accounts changing their logos, everything happening at the same day/time.

No way is this some weird coincidence.

People are capable of planning amongst themselves.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

That’s not an answer. What does it actually accomplish? What loop hole does it close? What gap does it fill? What process does it change? Give us the specifics of how this bill opens up the process and enables parents to be more involved in curriculum development and aware of its use.

It doesn’t do those things.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It doesn’t do those things.

Then all of this talk about how it is because parents wanting to be more involved and aware of what is being taught is a bunch of malarkey.

 

[CaptinEO]

People are capable of planning amongst themselves.

You think the Disney divisions all called eachother up and planned an event without consulting any higher ups for approval? LOL

It's all damage control.

If they just did walk outs in protest you wouldnt have all the photos and PR. This is a PR event.

 

[SirLink]

You think the Disney divisions all called eachother up and planned an event without consulting any higher ups for approval? LOL

It's all damage control.

If they just did walk outs in protest you wouldnt have all the photos and PR. This is a PR event.

Alternative theory the teams that run the social media for each division wanted to be fired and thought it was a clever idea to accomplish their needs.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

Then all of this talk about how it is because parents wanting to be more involved and aware of what is being taught is a bunch of malarkey.

No. it’s not.

It doesn’t establish any way for parents to get involved in curriculum. It doesn’t change instruction. It simply acts as a deterrent to some districts, or individual teachers, “teaching” about things that most parents find inappropriate for young children.

While at the same time setting up a system for parents to know when this is being violated.

As I have said repeatedly. Parents DO NOT TRUST school systems right now. You can say that’s dumb or wrong or whatever you want. But it’s the reality. So a bill like this comes along and guess what, it makes sense to parents. They like it. They like knowing that some things will stay out of the classroom. They like knowing that schools can’t just ignore them when they reach out.

As a lifelong progressive, and longtime democrat, I fear the Left in this country is losing their way, in turn losing their influence.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You think the Disney divisions all called eachother up and planned an event without consulting any higher ups for approval? LOL

It's all damage control.

If they just did walk outs in protest you wouldnt have all the photos and PR. This is a PR event.

We’re talking about social media teams. People who do the communicating thing. Who probably have each other’s contact information for when they’re all promoting the same thing like the latest movie. And that’s assuming there isn’t any shared control.

 

[CaptinEO]

We’re talking about social media teams. People who do the communicating thing. Who probably have each other’s contact information for when they’re all promoting the same thing like the latest movie. And that’s assuming there isn’t any shared control.

So when have all the social media teams done anything off brand or unofficially? Name one instance before this supposed "protest".

Things don't work the way you think they do.

You believe Disney employees that are the public facing accounts of the company are going against the company's wishes and doing an actual protest of their leadership, behind their backs?

Do you think the corporate world works this way? That's how you get fired.

This a cutesy effort from Disney leadership to make it seem like their employees and therefore the company "care".

 

[lazyboy97o]

No. it’s not.

It doesn’t establish any way for parents to get involved in curriculum. It doesn’t change instruction. It simply acts as a deterrent to some districts, or individual teachers, “teaching” about things that most parents find inappropriate for young children.

While at the same time setting up a system for parents to know when this is being violated.

As I have said repeatedly. Parents DO NOT TRUST school systems right now. You can say that’s dumb or wrong or whatever you want. But it’s the reality. So a bill like this comes along and guess what, it makes sense to parents. They like it. They like knowing that some things will stay out of the classroom. They like knowing that schools can’t just ignore them when they reach out.

As a lifelong progressive, and longtime democrat, I fear the Left in this country is losing their way, in turn losing their influence.

If a district was somehow teaching such things, or even considering teaching such things, it would have to be discussed and approved at an open school board meeting. This would mean parents aren’t actually involved or they generally approve the subject being taught. If it is a deterrent then it is to deter the parents.

Building trust in a system involves openness and participation. By your own admission, this legislation does nothing to facilitate those things.

And nobody who has discussed politics with me would ever describe me as progressive or left, so that’s irrelevant to me.

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

If a district was somehow teaching such things, or even considering teaching such things, it would have to be discussed and approved at an open school board meeting.

You keep coming back to this. And I think you really believe teachers and districts have a strict curriculum or lesson plan that they adhere to 100%. Is that how you think teaching works?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Page 76… not bad, but we have a long way to go to catch up with the COVID threads…

 

[Lord Starwalker]

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In this case if Disney supports those behind the bill they are anti gay, because one sides labeled it the anti gay bill, if they don’t support them they are anti family, because the other sides labeled it the pro family bill. I don’t blame Disney for staying out of this one, or politics in general, it’s lose/lose no matter what they do.

This is why Bob Chapek should have stuck to his original strategy and stayed on a politically nuetral path. As it stands now he has both Disney employees and Disney customers, on both sides of this issue, upset with the company's political stance.

 

[Figment32]

How about not pushing this down the throats of kids and parents who believe that sex education is the role not of the school but of the parents? How about all kids go to school to learn how to read, write and do math and leave all the social engineering alone. Since Covid parents can see just how far teachers have deviated from educating kids to teaching them things small kids have no business knowing. If the two mummy or two daddy family wish to show their elementary children exactly how they have sex then do not inflict this on others.

"If the two mummy or two daddy family wish to show their elementary children exactly how they have sex then do not inflict this on others." This is asinine. It's about their mere existence. Not how they have sex. Weird that you even made it about having sex when I was referencing a child talking about their family at school.

This isn't about sex education. The bill prohibits discussion on sexual orientation and sexual identity at school. It's an effort to deny the fact that LGBT people exist. Did you read the bill? I can send you a link to the actual bill so you can read it if you would like. It's posted on the Florida Senate website.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

They should not be encouraging kids - and the ban is for children under 8 - to learn about sex before they have the maturity.

No one is advocating for them to learn about sex, so apparently you are mistaken about what is happening.

 

[Lord Starwalker]

Easier said than done, in the Washington example provided the parents complained to the school and the school said it didn’t violate any laws so they let the posters stay.

That’s how we end up with legislation like this, a couple teachers push the limits by going outside approved curriculum, parents complain, the school districts say there’s no law against it, and the parents start the process of implementing laws to address what should have been handled on an individual level.

When parents feel they don’t have a voice at the school the only recourse is going above the schools.

Unfortunately, this is exactly where our country is right now. Anyone recall the news about the School Board Meetings in Loudoun County, Virginina? All one has to do is go on YouTube and search "loudoun county school board meeting" and you will see how bad it can get!

Parents being shut down and kicked out of School Board Meetings. School Board reporting parents as domestic terrorists to our FBI.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You keep coming back to this. And I think you really believe teachers and districts have a strict curriculum or lesson plan that they adhere to 100%. Is that how you think teaching works?

I keep coming back to it because it is the established process for parental involvement and awareness, and ultimately trust. If that is the root cause then that is what needs to be addressed.

I’m well aware that teachers don’t just do a rote recitation of a script. If the issue was teachers going way off script then that too is a broader problem that isn’t addressed. You create or strengthen mechanisms for teachers to be punished for inappropriate behavior with a process that isn’t tied to unilateral actions outside the system and without any sort of accountability.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

No. it’s not.

It doesn’t establish any way for parents to get involved in curriculum. It doesn’t change instruction. It simply acts as a deterrent to some districts, or individual teachers, “teaching” about things that most parents find inappropriate for young children.

While at the same time setting up a system for parents to know when this is being violated.

As I have said repeatedly. Parents DO NOT TRUST school systems right now. You can say that’s dumb or wrong or whatever you want. But it’s the reality. So a bill like this comes along and guess what, it makes sense to parents. They like it. They like knowing that some things will stay out of the classroom. They like knowing that schools can’t just ignore them when they reach out.

As a lifelong progressive, and longtime democrat, I fear the Left in this country is losing their way, in turn losing their influence.

So issues can only be addressed if a majority are concerned?

My understanding is that any single person could potentially initiate a lawsuit under this bill.