Bob Chapek's response to Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill

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CaptainAmerica

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This is not a fringe issue. The Walt Disney Company has aligned itself squarely in opposition to the mainstream.

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Californian Elitist

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Disney Analyst said:
It’s quite interesting how prude America has become.

Other countries discuss sex in a much healthier and normalized way.
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It’s the belief that kids aren’t doing things, can’t know about things, and shielding them from information will stop them from doing things that is all wrong. As @ImperfectPixie stated, we’ve got girls as young as 12 getting pregnant.

I remember one of my counseling professors telling us about a time where she was asked to provide emergency counseling to high school students at at some school somewhere in the south. The school did not provide sex education to the students and there was a syphilis outbreak on campus.
 
Disstevefan1

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lazyboy97o said:
How is the curriculum having to be adopted annually at an open meeting and instructional materials posted online not allowing people to have a say? How does this legislation fix those shortcomings?
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I said folks want their public schools to do, or not do, teach, or not teach, what they want. One person wants this, the other person wants that, it’s irrelevant what the issue is. You will never have 100 percent agreement on anything.
 
Disney Analyst

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Andrew C said:
There was/is an active conversation going on in here related to minors masturbating (as young as 8)....you don't get why that may make some people uncomfortable or think, "Why the heck are they talking about this in a public forum?"?
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I mean, I am not sure how it got there. But I think it’s all part of the wider issue at hand. There are many varying opinions and ideas on what is appropriate to teach our children, and when, and that makes it challenging to find a common ground in here.

In grade 4, all us boys were discussing the topic you mentioned, without any teaching from school or parents. I don’t think it came up properly until grade 7 Sex Ed (if I remember correctly, maybe grade 6?). Are schools in Florida teaching the mentioned in k-3 currently? As this bill wouldn’t prevent that anyway.

I also truly believe that everyone in here wants what is best for kids, of all ages.
 
ImperfectPixie

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raven24 said:
It’s the belief that kids aren’t doing things, can’t know about things, and shielding them from information will stop them from doing things that is all wrong. As @ImperfectPixie stated, we’ve got girls as young as 12 getting pregnant.

I remember one of my counseling professors telling us about a time where she was asked to provide emergency counseling to high school students at at some school somewhere in the south. The school did not provide sex education to the students and there was a syphilis outbreak on campus.
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Yup.

And guess whose 15-year-old son isn't interested in getting involved with girls yet? (He's not LGBTQ+)

And guess who has a degree in Education with a specialization in instructional design?
 
GladToBeHear

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ImperfectPixie said:
What about children who have 2 moms or 2 dads? Should they not be allowed to talk about their families? Because the way the bill is worded, parents can sue schools and teachers for allowing these discussions.
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Like most things, it would depend on the context of the discussion. I never said the bill is perfect. I just said I agree with it's intent when it comes to 5-8 year olds. It's a parents' rights bill. And Disney is foolish to have gotten in the mud to oppose it. Don't think parents' rights are important to a lot of people? See Virginia.
 
Andrew C

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I mean, I am not sure how it got there. But I think it’s all part of the wider issue at hand. There are many varying opinions and ideas on what is appropriate to teach our children, and when, and that makes it challenging to find a common ground in here.

In grade 4, all us boys were discussing the topic you mentioned, without any teaching from school or parents. I don’t think it came up properly until grade 7 Sex Ed (if I remember correctly, maybe grade 6?). Are schools in Florida teaching the mentioned in k-3 currently? As this bill wouldn’t prevent that anyway.

I also truly believe that everyone in here wants what is best for kids, of all ages.
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Grade 6 for me...Grade 5 for the girls when I was a kid.

Anyways, there is common ground IMO if you are able to kinda avoid the extreme sides of the argument..which is probably somewhere along the lines that there is a legitimate concern from parents that sexual education or discussion is coming up at an age in schools (even if not a part of the official curriculum) that is probably too early, but this piece of legislation is likely not the best way to resolve this particular concern.
 
ImperfectPixie

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GladToBeHear said:
Like most things, it would depend on the context of the discussion. I never said the bill is perfect. I just said I agree with it's intent when it comes to 5-8 year olds. It's a parents' rights bill. And Disney is foolish to have gotten in the mud to oppose it. Don't think parents' rights are important to a lot of people? See Virginia.
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The problem with the bill is specifically that it allows for the stoppage of these kinds of conversations. An amendment was proposed that would eliminate that risk, while still banning any kind of instruction regarding sex and sex acts, but it was shot down on the basis that it would "gut the bill". That is a direct quote from Senator Baxley.
 
ImperfectPixie

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GladToBeHear said:
Like most things, it would depend on the context of the discussion. I never said the bill is perfect. I just said I agree with it's intent when it comes to 5-8 year olds. It's a parents' rights bill. And Disney is foolish to have gotten in the mud to oppose it. Don't think parents' rights are important to a lot of people? See Virginia.
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Also...it's "hiding" as being a parental rights bill. It isn't really...because those rights are already there. It's a direct attack on the LGBTQ+ community. The part of the bill about lawsuits is to enable it to be weaponized.
 
GladToBeHear

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Andrew C said:
Grade 6 for me...Grade 5 for the girls when I was a kid.

Anyways, there is common ground IMO if you are able to kinda avoid the extreme sides of the argument..which is probably somewhere along the lines that there is a legitimate concern from parents that sexual education or discussion is coming up at an age in schools (even if not a part of the official curriculum) that is probably too early, but this piece of legislation is likely not the best way to resolve this particular concern.
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And that sexual education covers a lot more ground than it used to.
 
TP2000

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So, it's after 9am here in California. Afternoon out in Florida. What happened with the big "Using An Earned Comp Day Walk Out" for all the white collar folks today? The Apps are showing operating theme parks at Disney World, and Disneyland just opened. I don't see any mention of this in the media.
 
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